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Still, it is a shame that half of Double Fantasy was filled by Mrs Lennon. Her absence would have improved the album a lot. And I really dislike Starting Over, but that's obviously a matter of taste.
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Quoted from wingsman

And, as always, sorry my english guys!


You're English is fine.

Let us know what you think when you've listened to them. Personally I can't stand Starting Over, or Woman. They're too fm radio friendly for my liking. As for Beautiful Boy, am I the only one that's gets tired of listening to Lennon sing songs about the wife and kids? He'd walked out on Julian, leaving him practically nothing, and then we're meant to swoon over him singing about Sean?!! I don't think so.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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As for Beautiful Boy, am I the only one that's gets tired of listening to Lennon sing songs about the wife and kids? He'd walked out on Julian, leaving him practically nothing, and then we're meant to swoon over him singing about Sean?!! I don't think so.


I get your point. Still I like it better than Yoko's song about Beautiful Boys. It makes me turn the cd-player off.
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You're English is fine.

Let us know what you think when you've listened to them. Personally I can't stand Starting Over, or Woman. They're too fm radio friendly for my liking. As for Beautiful Boy, am I the only one that's gets tired of listening to Lennon sing songs about the wife and kids? He'd walked out on Julian, leaving him practically nothing, and then we're meant to swoon over him singing about Sean?!! I don't think so.


No you're not. And it's a rubbish song anyway. Don't Lennonites ever accuse Macca of producing overly sentimental mush.
I have a little fantasy of Lennon usuing Talking Heads as his band. Then we might have had an album.
I sat by my radio waiting to hear Starting Over for the first time - what a crushing dissapointment. Boring, bland. But the retro trick worked - the DJ said "it's an oldie but a golgie." Knobhead.


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I guess in fairness to John he was in New York with a NY crew. British and american music had undergone a big split after punk in 1976. Sounds that were hip in NYC were definately not hip in London and Manchester. Probably in 1980, as far as as British audiences were concerned, a nicely produced album about your family made with the wife was as bad a move as the man could make.
And at 40 he was probably a bit old to be connecting with the underground. Even the much vaunted missed oppotunity of recording with Cheap Trick would have meet with sneers and raised eyebrows in the UK.


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I guess in fairness to John he was in New York with a NY crew. British and american music had undergone a big split after punk in 1976. Sounds that were hip in NYC were definately not hip in London and Manchester. Probably in 1980, as far as as British audiences were concerned, a nicely produced album about your family made with the wife was as bad a move as the man could make.
And at 40 he was probably a bit old to be connecting with the underground. Even the much vaunted missed oppotunity of recording with Cheap Trick would have meet with sneers and raised eyebrows in the UK.


But NY was not cut off the rest of the world, was it? I mean, there were some things going on in NY as well around that time. But it didn't inspire John nor did he feel or see a connection.
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He must have known what was going on. I remember him saying how he believed Yoko had inspired many of the new wave female artists. So he must have had his ear to the ground a bit.
Maybe at 40 he was just too old to take the new music on board.


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I can see the influence of Yoko on Bjork, Lene Lovich and Mariah Carey.
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He had access to Patti Smith, Television, NY Dolls, Talking Heads, The Ramones.....and he decides to sound like Cliff Richard.
But I'm being unkind - Macca did try to embrace the new sound on Back to the Egg. Not my favourite.


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OK. This question is stupid at this point but... Yoko sang a half of the album? I know she wrote the songs   but she also sings!? That's horrible.


I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't eat trash... I work out hard everyday and have a healthy life. And I'm proud of it.
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Yes. But that doesn't let John off the hook. His half isn't that hot either.  


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