Quoted from Buttmunker

No, that's wrong.  We still would have had World War II because of the japanese bombing Pearl Harbor.

What's strange is that the United States didn't act or get involved in Hitler's invasions.  We only entered the war because of what happened at Pearl Harbor.

Not strange, needed to make sure Britain & Europe were truly on brink of bankruptcy before finishing off all the hard, expensive work.

how long would it have taken the beatles to properly finish let it be?

the material was there.....

2 weeks of hard work at the most ? maybe 3?

it would have been a classic album... a masterpiece even

and we wouldn't have all this spector/naked/ bootleg mess

Quoted from matthew

how long would it have taken the beatles to properly finish let it be?

the material was there.....

2 weeks of hard work at the most ? maybe 3?

it would have been a classic album... a masterpiece even

and we wouldn't have all this spector/naked/ bootleg mess

Well, 'Let It Be,,,Naked' is its finished form, and it sure isnt a masterpiece.

Quoted from tkitna

Well, 'Let It Be,,,Naked' is its finished form, and it sure isnt a masterpiece.

well in terms of the individual quality of the songs it certainly is

better than most beatle albums probably better than any pre 66 beatle album

across the universe, get back, let it be, two of us, don't let me down (on naked at least). i've got a feeling... classic after classic after classic

two of these songs I consider amongst the best the Beatles ever made... one of these songs will be played hundreds of years from now

let it be gets a bad rep because it is an orphaned album

based soley on the quality of the songs i would say it is one of the best albums ever made

Quoted from matthew

well in terms of the individual quality of the songs it certainly is

better than most beatle albums probably better than any pre 66 beatle album

You really consider it better than A Hard Day's Night, and Rubber Soul? I admit, I like Let It Be more than a lot of people, but I wouldn't rate it that highly.

Quoted from Buttmunker

I love the chatter, gives for a more 'live feeling,' and the songs are "rough," which is what the Beatles wanted in the first place, isn't it?  A get back to basics album?  Sure there's some orchestration, but to me it sounded very, very subtle.  You almost have to listen carefully to hear it (you ask me).

I like the chatter also. There should have been more of it. True there's not much in the way of orchestration, apart from The Long And Winding Road.  

Quoted from Buttmunker

I was never sure what happened to George Martin during all this.  I suppose he refused to work with them after what he went through on the White Album.  He "fired" the Beatles, in essence.  

Glyn Johns became their producer, and he worked on the album for them.  His work was refused by the Beatles, so the album was shelved.

It's likely that George Martin was not at Twickenham, where the rehearsals took place, and where the majority of the movie is filmed. It's not too clear how much time he spent at Saville Row. The Beatles themselves were only there for 8 or 9 days. Johns was given the task of sorting the (500 hours worth) tapes out into an album.

Spector wasn't brought in until 1970 to sort things out, so he never actually produced them while they were in the studio. It seems that Glynn Johns had done all the donkey work for him - sorting through the tapes and finding the best versions etc.

What Spector acheived that Johns didn't, was an overall feel, and balance to the record. All the Glynn Johns versions sound like they've been cobbled together from 500 hours of crap - which they mostly had. They're untidy and unbalanced. Spectors' sounds like an album. Hats off to him, I say.

Quoted from Buttmunker

No, that's wrong.  We still would have had World War II because of the japanese bombing Pearl Harbor.

What's strange is that the United States didn't act or get involved in Hitler's invasions.  We only entered the war because of what happened at Pearl Harbor.

Sorry no. You would have had a local pacific war, and anyway it's unlikely Japan could  have taken on Britain, Holland, France and the USA if the european powers hadn't been weakened by Hitler. It would have no more been WW11 than Korea was WW111.
After Pearl Harbour the United States decided not to get involved in Europe (quite rightly in my opinion*.) You were only dragged into the wider war because Hitler declared war on you.
* And you were involved - Lend Lease and "the arsenal of democracy" and all that. And remember, the US had no love of the european powers and their massive empires. It is generally considered that the bankrupting of Britain was more than a coincidental outcome of lendlease

I think Spector's version was fine. The more basic rock and blues songs didn't really have that much done to them in the first place. It sounds fine, but not quite up with the production standards of Abbey Road.

Quoted from Pasta Cheif

I think Spector's version was fine. The more basic rock and blues songs didn't really have that much done to them in the first place. It sounds fine, but not quite up with the production standards of Abbey Road.

LIB was always meant to be a bit 'rough n ready', which is why I disagree 'naked'. Abbey Road was recorded on EMI's new 8 track in far superior quality to the two 4 tracks used at Saville Row.

Quoted from matthew

well in terms of the individual quality of the songs it certainly is

better than most beatle albums probably better than any pre 66 beatle album

Quoted from tkitna

Sorry Matthew. Looks like you've set yourself up! Good on you.

phil did ok.....if the beatles were so interested they should have followed thru with it instead of letting someone else finish it....paul should have finished what he started but he was fed up....most of the blame should rest on their shoulders...i won't comment on hitler..i might lose friends....

i've met people who were in those cocentration camps....a few had tattooed numbers on their arms...

Quoted from pc31

i've met people who were in those cocentration camps....a few had tattooed numbers on their arms...

I have thoughts on all this, but this is not the place.

Quoted from Kevin

I have thoughts on all this, but this is not the place.

Over to the Current Affairs forum then?

Quoted from BlueMeanie

Over to the Current Affairs forum then?

Maybe it's best left alone. A thread on "what do you think of Adolf" isn't exactly kosher. That implies that there may be a view other than "madman monster,"  and is not worth the grief.