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Sandra
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People of low character cheat. Look, if you're bored, speak up! It's not brain surgery. You choose to be deceptive. It's a choice. No excuses. If you want an open relationship then say so from the beginning. Otherwise, don't go along with the pretense that you are in a committed, exclusive relationship. And if it's an "accident" then come clean right away. Don't insult the other person by dragging it out and making them feel like a fool when they finally find out. I think this is called having respect for other human beings and not being selfish. A hard thing for most people though. We're all a bit selfish aren't we?


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According to the Pattie bio, George was pretty open about his cheating -- especially when he moved girlfriends into the house to her dismay.  He also supposedly equated himself to Hindu gods who had many wives -- he apparently had no moral issues or sensitivity towards Pattie's feelings over these things.  I don't know if his openness exempts him, though.
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Quoted from Mr. Mustard
According to the Pattie bio, George was pretty open about his cheating -- especially when he moved girlfriends into the house to her dismay.  He also supposedly equated himself to Hindu gods who had many wives -- he apparently had no moral issues or sensitivity towards Pattie's feelings over these things.  I don't know if his openness exempts him, though.


Well, if he went into the marriage promising to be faithful and then started in with all this stuff, no, I don't think it exempts him! But then, she knew and put up with it for a long time so for her to complain about it after the fact is sort of sleazy too.

That's funny about George and the Hindu god thing. I never knew that!! What was he smoking that day!?! Crazy Beatle.  


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Is it in Buddhism where all your sins of yesterday are a former you and not actually you today? heheh

Seems George my have found the perfect excuse in his faith to swing. I blame the Maharashi! lol


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And a man`s options depend on whether he - or she as well, i believe - loves the partner or not. So it all boils down to love.
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Buddhism is a different religion than Hinduism, George was Hindu.


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Not to oversimplify both religions, but Hinduism and Buddhism have far more similarities than differences.  The main difference I can think of is the pantheism (belief in numerous gods) in Hinduism, while Buddhism really has no personal creator -- Buddha himself was a human who attained total enlightenment.  Aside from that, both religions are based around karma (I don't know if the Hindus call it 'karma,' per se, but it's there) and reincarnation.
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I know that Buddhism and Hinduism are similar religiongs, but they are not the same. That is all I was saying. Buddha is actually a Hindu god meaning "the enlightened one". I was just saying that George was more Hindu.


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I know that Buddhism and Hinduism are similar religiongs, but they are not the same. That is all I was saying. Buddha is actually a Hindu god meaning "the enlightened one". I was just saying that George was more Hindu.


The way I see it, George took all the bits he liked from many religions and put them together to make something that worked for him.


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That's why he always talked about Krishna, Shiva and many other Hindu gods and used Hindu chants. Also the OM symbol was everywhere around him.


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Quoted from DarkSweetLady
I know that Buddhism and Hinduism are similar religiongs, but they are not the same. That is all I was saying. Buddha is actually a Hindu god meaning "the enlightened one". I was just saying that George was more Hindu.


But (and again, I'm not trying to quote the Hindu religion like I'm some kind of expert in it), I don't think Buddha is a god in Hinduism.

Here's my take on Hindu vs Buddha:  Hinduism is more primitive.  With the beliefs in numeorous gods, worshipping cows, the caste system;  Buddhism is more enlightened than Hinduism.


And that is JUST ONE VIEW.  If there's a Hindu out there to enlightenen me about my viewpoint, then I welcome it.  But that's how I currently see that religion.
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What I meant a couple posts back.

Buddha with two "D" is Buddha as in 'the enlightened one' (my mistake before). He is the one associated with the Buddhist religion that originated in India around the life of a man named Siddhartha Gautama.

Budha with one "D" is the Hindu God. Budha in the Hindu religion is the God of merchandise and is to protect merchants.

Budha or Buddha is depicted in many different ways, the most traditional with the Hindus is this depiction:


I hoped that helped a little.
I could post a more vivid depiction of the hindu God Budha as soon as I find my book of Hindu deities, which I seemed to miss place.  


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So the thing about rubbing the Budha/Buddha's belly for luck -- is that more of a Hindu superstition?

And I may have misspoke when I said I didn't think Buddha (Siddhartha) was a god in Hinduism.  I'm really not sure;  he may very well be, in the same way that Jesus is an exalted prophet in Islam (just not the MOST exalted profit).

And does anyone know the literal translation of "Hare Krishna?"  Is that another name for the Hindu God?
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Quoted from Sandra
People of low character cheat. Look, if you're bored, speak up! It's not brain surgery. You choose to be deceptive. It's a choice. No excuses. If you want an open relationship then say so from the beginning. Otherwise, don't go along with the pretense that you are in a committed, exclusive relationship. And if it's an "accident" then come clean right away. Don't insult the other person by dragging it out and making them feel like a fool when they finally find out. I think this is called having respect for other human beings and not being selfish. A hard thing for most people though. We're all a bit selfish aren't we?


That's true, Sondra. I also think the cheating had a lot to do with the Godlike status that the Beatles had in those days. Everyone was telling George how wonderful he was and that he could do no wrong. Mix that in with the "free love" mess that was going on in those days and you have a recipe for disaster.



I'm an alligator, I'm a mama-papa coming for you
I'm the space invader, I'll be a rock 'n' rollin' b**** for you
Keep your mouth shut,
you're squawking like a pink monkey bird
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I also agree with you Sandra and Mairi.

That's ok Mr.Mustard I was confused a little before, but I hope I straightened it out a little bit.

I think to answer you other question Mr.Mustard, when you hear the Hare Krishna Mantra, all 'hare' means is to take away, or to end. So when one chants Hare Krishna their asking the God Krishna to take away their sorrows. The God Rama is also mentioned in the chat, but like Krishna it is just another incarnation of the God Head Vishnu.

I found a quote from George Harrison:
"A mantra is mystical energy encased in a sound structure and each mantra contains within its vibrations a certain power. But of all mantras, the maha-mantra (the Hare Krishna mantra) has been prescribed as the easiest and surest way for attaining God Realization in this present age."


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