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DarkSweetLady
August 21, 2007, 12:28am Report to Moderator

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Is it for sure coming out at the end of August in the U.S. ?

  I'm gonna add it to my Birthday list!


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According to Amazon, it will be released on August 28, 2007.  I already have mine on order.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Cool...putting that on my birthday list!


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I'll read it. I'm not much of a Patti fan...but hey, it does look interesting.

And I really want to read 'I Was Only There to Walk Martha, and Look What Happened!"



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Quoted from The Fox Drummer
And I really want to read 'I Was Only There to Walk Martha, and Look What Happened!"


This will be the most truly revealing book. It is filled with panting and lolling tongues and doggie biscuits, where "doggie biscuits" can mean anything you like...



All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Funny thread about walking Martha!

Reading that excerpt from Patti Boyd Harrison's book, I just have one question - how do these guys stay friends after sleeping with each other's wives? I mean, George still being friend's with Eric Clapton? And ESPECIALLY Ringo still being friends with George after George slept with his wife?

I never knew that last one. I feel sorry for Ringo ...


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Well, we'll have to see if Pattie can help clear this up. I think it's interesting that (according to Pattie) Ringo didn't think anything odd about Maureen not coming home until Pattie pointed it out to him. From her account, I think Mo was trying to get R's attention. Since P and G had already drifted apart, she picked G!

I really don't know. I wasn't part of the "free love" era. But I think in both cases there was distance between the husbands and wives, and instead of trying to work the problems out (as we do routinely today through counseling), the 60s people had no such resources, so just resorted to the old "Hah! He's ignoring me... this will make him jealous!"

G has said many times about Eric, "Pattie and I were basically done with each other when she took up with him", so it was more like Pattie moved on to another relationship. I think P&G wished each other well, but weren't in love anymore. As far as G making peace with R, I don't know that much about it. R did decide to leave Mo, which really hurt her. (She tried to commit suicide by driving into a wall.) So I would have to say R was through with M also and ready to move on. But there was a good bit of wife-swapping going on in the swinging set anyway at that time (and still is, for all I know), so I don't think all this sleeping around was as shocking to this group of people as it might be to those of us from a more traditional "one relationship at a time" background.

But I really don't know the answers. I hope P's book will shed some light. At the very least, we'll learn the way she rationalized it to herself.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Another excerpt:

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We met secretly at a flat in South Kensington. Eric Clapton had asked me to come because he wanted me to listen to a new number he had written.

He switched on the tape machine, turned up the volume and played me the most powerful, moving song I had ever heard. It was Layla, about a man who falls hopelessly in love with a woman who loves him but is unavailable.

He played it to me two or three times, all the while watching my face intently for my reaction. My first thought was: 'Oh God, everyone's going to know this is about me.'

I was married to Eric's close friend, George Harrison, but Eric had been making his desire for me clear for months. I felt uncomfortable that he was pushing me in a direction in which I wasn't certain I wanted to go.

But with the realisation that I had inspired such passion and creativity, the song got the better of me. I could resist no longer.

That evening I was going to the theatre to see Oh! Calcutta! with a friend and then on to a party at the home of pop impresario Robert Stigwood. George didn't want to go to the show or the party.

After the interval at Oh!Calcutta! I came back to find Eric in the next seat, having persuaded a stranger to swap places with him. Afterwards we went to Robert's house separately but we were soon together. It was a great party and I felt elated by what had happened earlier in the day but also deeply guilty.

During the early hours, George appeared. He was morose and his mood was not improved by walking into a party that had been going on for several hours and where most of the guests were high on drugs.

He kept asking 'Where's Pattie?' but no one seemed to know. He was about to leave when he spotted me in the garden with Eric. It was just getting light, and very misty. George came over and demanded: 'What's going on?' To my horror, Eric said: 'I have to tell you, man, that I'm in love with your wife.'

I wanted to die. George was furious. He turned to me and said: 'Well, are you going with him or coming with me?'

I had met George six years previously, in 1964, when he was filming A Hard Day's Night. Britain and most of Europe was in the grip of Beatlemania.

John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr were mobbed everywhere they went, and at their concerts thousands of hysterical teenagers cried and screamed so loudly that no one could hear the music.



2). Shortly before they started shooting A Hard Day's Night, The Beatles took America by storm. In February 1964 they appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show, one of America's most prestigious programmes, and attracted an audience of 73million.

I was a model, working with some of the most successful photographers in London, including David Bailey and Terence Donovan. I was appearing in newspapers and magazines such as Vanity Fair and Vogue, but in March my agent sent me along to a casting session for a film.

She called later to tell me I had been offered the part of a schoolgirl fan in a Beatles film. On first impressions, John seemed more cynical and brash than the others, Ringo the most endearing, Paul was cute and George, with velvet-brown eyes and dark chestnut hair, was the best-looking man I had ever seen. At a break for lunch I found myself sitting next to him. Being close to him was electrifying.

Almost the first thing he said to me was: 'Will you marry me?' He was joking but there was a hint of seriousness. We got together soon after that and married two years later on January 21, 1966. I was 21, he was 22. I was so happy and so much in love. I thought we would be together and happy for ever.

Three years later, in 1969, George wrote a song called Something. He told me in a matter-of-fact way that he had written it for me. I thought it was beautiful and it turned out to be the most successful song he ever wrote, with more than 150 cover versions.

Frank Sinatra said he thought it was the best love song ever written. George's favourite version was the one by James Brown. Mine was the one by George Harrison, which he played to me in our kitchen.

But, in fact, by then our relationship was in trouble. Since a trip to the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's ashram in India in 1968, George had become obsessive about meditation. He was also sometimes withdrawn and depressed.

My moods started to mirror his and at times I felt almost suicidal. I don't think I was ever in any real danger of killing myself but I got as far as working out how I would do it: put on a diaphanous Ossie Clark dress and throw myself off Beachy Head.

And there were other women, which really hurt me. George was fascinated by the god Krishna who was always surrounded by young maidens. He came back from India wanting to be some kind of Krishna figure, a spiritual being with lots of concubines. He actually said so.

No woman was out of bounds. I was friendly with a French girl who was going out with Eric Clapton. When she and Eric broke up, she came to stay with us at our house, Kinfauns, in Esher, Surrey.



3). She didn't seem remotely upset about Eric and was uncomfortably close to George. Something was going on between them but when I questioned George he told me my imagination was running away with me, that I was paranoid.

I left to stay with friends and within days George phoned to say the girl had gone. I returned home but I was shocked that he could do such a thing to me. I felt unloved and miserable.

It was around this time that Eric began to come over to our house. He and George had become close friends, writing and recording music together.

Eric's guitar playing was held in awe by his fellow musicians. Graffiti declaring 'Clapton is God' had been scrawled on the London Underground, and he was an incredibly exciting performer to watch. He looked wonderful on stage, very sexy.

But when I met him he didn't behave like a rock star – he was surprisingly shy and reticent. I was aware that Eric found me attractive and I enjoyed the attention he paid me.

It was hard not to be flattered when I caught him staring at me or when he chose to sit beside me. He complimented me on what I was wearing and the food I had cooked, and he said things he knew would make me laugh. Those were all things that George no longer did.

One night in December 1969 I took my 17-year-old sister Paula to see Eric play in Liverpool. Paula was very pretty and a bit of a wild child, and that night Eric fell for her. After the show we all went to a restaurant and everyone was quite drunk and raucous. When the rest of us went back to the hotel, we left Eric and Paula dancing.

The next night Eric was playing in Croydon and again Paula and I went to watch, and again there was a wild after-show party, this time at Eric's Italianate manor house, Hurtwood Edge in Ewhurst, Surrey. Soon after, Paula moved in with Eric.

In March 1970, George and I moved into a new house. Friar Park was a magnificent Victorian Gothic pile near Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire, with 25 bedrooms, a ballroom, a library, a formal garden of 12 acres and a further 20 acres of land.

One morning shortly after moving in, a letter arrived for me with the words 'express' and 'urgent' written on the envelope. Inside I found a small piece of paper. In small, immaculate writing, with no capital letters, I read: 'dearest l,'as you have probably gathered, my own home affairs are a galloping farce, which is rapidly degenerating day by intolerable day . . . it seems like an eternity since i last saw or spoke to you!'

He needed to ascertain my feelings: id I still love my husband or did I have another lover? More crucially, did I still have feelings in my heart for him? He had to know, and urged me to write. 'please do this, whatever it may say, my mind will be at rest . . .'all my love, e.'

I assumed it was from some weirdo.

I got fan mail occasionally – when I wasn't getting hate mail from George's fans. I showed it to George and others who were at the house. They laughed and dismissed it, as I had.

That evening the phone rang. It was Eric. 'Did you get my letter?' he asked.
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Excellent. I like the bit about George using his Krishnaness as an excuse for screwing around. Nice to see  maybe he remained human after all.


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Reading that excerpt from Patti Boyd Harrison's book, I just have one question - how do these guys stay friends after sleeping with each other's wives? I mean, George still being friend's with Eric Clapton? And ESPECIALLY Ringo still being friends with George after George slept with his wife?

I never knew that last one. I feel sorry for Ringo ...


Have you ever wondered how ABBA stayed together? And them not only swinging round but writing songs bout it too! Have you seen Phone Booth? I think guys mainly operate on the "hotel-motel" principal... And i dont blame them... I read that Ringo slept with others while Mo was waiting for him to return from a tour or something (and she knew that). So as HH said, it is all "free love" ans as we know from John "love is free, free is love"


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Did anyone see Patty Boyd on "Fox and Friends" last week on tv ? She's promoting her very first autobiography. Havent gotten a chance to read it yet, but I sure hope she's kind to George and Clapton in it.
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She is generally kind to George and very forgiving of everybody. There were a few excerpts published in advance of the book that highlighted the problems she had when she and George were breaking up, but that's the media focusing on the naughtiest bits and is not the overall tone of the book. She has 4 happy years with George and then thinks, "What happened?" She doesn't provide any insights, because she doesn't understand it herself. (I have my theories on that, which I'll capture at some point.)

Her marriage to Clapton sounds like a nightmare, and the reader is sure to wonder why she ever said yes, given the circumstances. But the focus is on surviving a bad situation with an alcoholic partner. She basically says, "Here's what you can do, here's what you can't, and it took me way too long to learn that." She makes a point of saying how she and George made up long ago-- she said he was "like an older brother" for years-- and how she and Eric are friends.

She asked Eric's permission to publish his love letters, and she asked Ringo's permission to talk about the Maureen affair. There's a lot she doesn't talk about, either, to the disappointment of those who wanted a more lurid tale. Peter Brown's "The Love You Make" was a nasty, gossippy piece. Pattie's story is more her own journey to try to understand how she ended up where she did.

I find it interesting that Cynthia (in her books) put a great deal of thought into what she thought John needed to make him happy. Both books were full of her care-taking type thoughts: how can I support him, make life stable, make him comfortable? In contrast, Pattie is a party animal. She likes George because he's handsome and funny. When things started to fall apart, she had no idea how to hold it together, because I don't think she ever really knew the man she married. Not a surprising outcome when you tie the knot at 21 and 22.

Didn't mean to ramble on so! I'll pull my thoughts together and post something a little more coherent about the book. Cheers!


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Quoted from harihead


Didn't mean to ramble on so! I'll pull my thoughts together and post something a little more coherent about the book. Cheers!


it was very coherent, hari..thx, I learned a lot I didn't know about the "Patty" P.O.V.

(yeah, I do feel Cynthia was a more mature type of woman--look how she kept her total dignity during the time John was leaving her for Yoko. I always respected her for that, even though ironically, I think we all came to love and respect Yoko as well for entirely different reasons)
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I dont think Patty had 4 happy years with George. It was always said (even by George) that he didnt pay any attention to her.


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Quoted from Kevin
Excellent. I like the bit about George using his Krishnaness as an excuse for screwing around. Nice to see  maybe he remained human after all.


You clearly do not understand what you are talking about. Nor does Patti Boyd seem to either.
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