First of all Pattie doesn`t look well: i can tell by her skin and by her neck that she drinks. And she is wearing a hat to cast a shadow on her face, so definitely she is old-looking. But it can be seen that she used to be beautiful cause despite all her face IS rather beautiful. Note the difference: she is beautiful but she doesn`t look well. Pattie is considered to have been the prettiest Beatle girl. George fell in love with her at first sight but i don`t think she provided him with all-round comfort a man like George( an introvert) needed. What i don`t like is her affair with Eric right behind George`s back in George`s own house, in their house, her making passes at Eric, who was staying in their house as a friend, as a guest. She was surrounded by 2 great wonderful men all through the day and all through the night, and she doubtless flirted with Eric, who certainly liked her, and who didn`t? But he was George`s friend and if she hadn`t shown any interest, i am sure, he would have remained just a friend. George put up with it for some time, cause he loved her, but when the situation became unbearable - imagine that! things came to a head! poor George! - he just collected all her things and asked her and her lover to leave. I can`t stand it any longer, he said. He was a man of gold heart. And for Pattie it was all the same: George, now Eric.
No hatred at all, i pity her. Besides, i am sure she has smth to repent of, and she knows it but she will never say the word - it`s betrayal, acting behind the back.
Wow, Jane, you've obviously been reading a different book. No one can claim to really know what was going on in their home besides George and Pattie, but according to Pattie's side of the story, she wasn't carrying on an affair behind George's back -- she cheated on him once with Eric in a weak moment during the decline of her marriage. She wasn't making passes at Eric. She found out about his interest from the passionate love letters he wrote her. He broke down her resistance, then after their tryst, she ended things with him, and he went on a four-year heroin binge. (The affair didn't take place in George's house either.)
George never 'asked her and her lover to leave.' She left on her own in the mid-70s because their marriage had become loveless.
George was not 'a man of gold heart.' I'm a George fan too, but let's not get carried away with the hero worship. He blatantly cheated on Pattie numorous times, sometimes moving girlfriends into their home! He flooded the house with Hare Krishnas, made her feel like a stranger in her home, and became completely incommunicative.
According to Pattie's side of the story.
I think I'm going to have to read George's book now to get his.
^^^^^^^That's what I have read, too, about the Pattie-George-Eric "triangle". Eric persued Pattie relentlessly, wrote the most touching love letters, "My dearest "L"", from "E". Eric called Pattie his "Layla"..........hence the famous song. So I think I'm gonna have to start reading the book and let you all know what I think..............
Okay, now I'm confused. Didn't I read on this very forum an excerpt from Pattie's book saying that she, Eric, and George used to play hide and seek in George and Pattie's house and she and Eric would just hide somewhere and fool around? Sounds like cheating to me! In George's house. Sounds very mature as well. And then I am sure that I heard on the radio after some dj read her book or Eric's book or someone's book that Pattie and John had an affair! And that John was sexually obsessed with her. I remember the dj being shocked at how much interbreeding was going on with that band.
I'm about three quarters through the book (now it's the mid-'80s and Pattie and Eric are nearly finished) and I recall nothing from Pattie's book in which hide and seek games were played where Pattie and Eric fooled around. I'm curious about that post, Sandra. Perhaps you could link me to it (I'm assuming it's on another thread.) It could be a different book, though. (Maybe Clapton's?)
And there's nothing in Pattie's book about any affair with John. That's the first I've heard of that.
I guess that's also where I read about Pattie and John. And apparently not only John was sexually obsessed with her but Mick Jagger was too! If this is all true. Who knows. If so, what the hell was it about that woman?? Was she really that hot? I mean, she was cute, but come on.
Just read the link. It's so over the top with all the allegations that it appears that Pattie (if all of that stuff is true) STILL held back a ton of dirt from her book, even while everyone's suspecting her of spilling it all for big $$$. In a way I give her credit for keeping stuff (whatever that stuff is) to herself.
And I'm wondering why Clapton wants to write a sanitized bio? After all these years, Eric, just tell the whole f-ck-ng truth! Who cares anymore?
You know, I've been thinking...as over the top those allegations are, I would bet my life that they aren't half as outrageous as what actually happened. I mean, that life style is not something any of us will ever be able to comprehend. So I would actually expect her to hold back because otherwise she just would not come off looking very good to the rest of us regular people.
Sometimes though, I think it's better. I mean, half the time this stuff just creeps me out. Like when Marianne Faithfull told of a time when she and Mick were having sex and Mick told her he wished he were bleeping Keith. I just do NOT need to know this stuff. Although that is kind of fascinating because I think he meant it in a different way. But who knows. Again, these people are in another reality. Sorry to digress...
Overall, I didn't like the book. I didn't even ask for it,I got itas a gift and decided to read it, I thought, what the heck, right?
While reading it, mostly during the trouble time in the 70's, it almost seemed to me that it sounded like George was the only one doing something wrong. And whether George actually cheated or not, because who really knows now, no one can ask him, she never reallly said things she did wrong. And most likely or not when your in a stressful relationship like that one, with all those other men around, ya sure you stayed faithful. According to her book, it was all George's fault.
I don't see the point in writing a "tell all" auto-biography, then leave most of the topics nearly undisccused and vague. With a one side narrow view on all the topics that occur in the book.
As far as her looks, I'm not a mean person so I'm not going to makefun of the way she looks, but it isn't good. But she never was really pretty to me, but that's just my opinion.
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Well, George might have been unfaithful to her, i admit that. Being a rockstar, beset by girls on tours, being young...as John, Paul and Ringo did to their girls. It was such a life, smoking, drinking, fooling around. Remember, it was the time of sexual revolution, free love was proclaimed, love, peace, drugs...But he wasn`t going to leave her. Yes, he was obsessed with Krishnas and so on, he was such a man. You love him or leave him. She just didn`t love him, she loved herself and loved being the centre of men`s attention. I agree that she wasn`t that beautiful, but for some reason they, as you write, all wanted her, not Jane, who was maybe more beautiful. Because men always feel it when a woman wants it. And she provoked them. So! She didn`t love George. Now don`t ever expect her to tell the truth. Nevertheless we can admire her for her female charm and ability to conquer any man she wanted. Bravo!
These bios by the stars are so "homogenized" it ain't funny!!!! Come on!!!! Over half the people during their "era" are dead, and the ones living, they're all in their 60's...........so "spill it" and tell all the dirty, "true" stories of the day and your life. If I were in their shoes, I would have kept a diary of my day-to-day events and just take that and go from there in writing a book. And it would probably be pretty "sorid"..............
I agree that it is highly possible that George was unfaithful to her. I also agree with you , Jane, that even though Jane Asher may have been prettier, some people just have something that drive men crazy.
I don't believe everything in her book is true. I don't really believe her at all.
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If their marriage didn`t work, it couldn`t have been only George`s fault as she writes. And she was such a poor abandoned suffering little girl! Every man wanted her, all of them. But George didn`t. He didn`t pay attention to her, he didn`t speak to her, he turned his back on her. What was wrong with him? Doesn`t it sound strange? All men were driven to her, wrote passionate letters to her, but not George. He was not attracted to her. No longer. Can`t you see that this is all lies. If she was so charming, he certainly was in love. She was doing wrong things and he withdrew within himself, found comfort in something else, being a philosophically-minded person, calm and not a cruel one, who ignored his wife. I read in a magazine that he just asked her to leave, cause he couldn`t stand it any longer. And that sounds true, just like George: no rows, no scandals or showdowns. Remember his quarrel with Paul or John at one session working at the last album. That is what George was like. His reserve was the consequence not the cause of her behaviour. Think about it.