Alexis, you're so kind-- you even gave me links! I love that "history of the Beatles guitars" site. It would be way cool to see the actual guitars "in person".
How appropriate that George's guitar hailed from the same part of the country. I don't know how he wangled a vacation at that time either, but I think everyone was interested in hearing his report in how the Beatles were doing in America, since that was such a target for them. He did do quite a job as advance scout (as did Louise). Too bad America just wasn't interested in the Beatles (as they then found). People here might have enjoyed them.
You're welcome Harihead!!
I love John, I love Paul, And George and Ringo, I love them all!
Two reasons probably. The first, it can be pretty quiet around here on a Sunday. Secondly, maybe no-one is that interested. I'm pleased for Alexis that he was able to go there, and that he had a great time, but I think you overestimate the importance of places like this to the average non-American. These are your cultural icons and hero's, not ours. And that's not to degrade them in any way. I would imagine the average European's interest in The Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame is pretty close to zero, given that most of us will never go there. And we really don't care who gets inducted into them. We don't really have places like that, apart from The Beatles Story in Liverpool. And if you're into the Stones there's a mass of memorabilia at Bill Wyman's Sticky Fingers Restaurants.
I was born in 1958, and No.1 artists in that year - just to illustrate a point - Perry Como, Connie Francis, Vic Damone, Tommy Edwards, and Conway Twitty. We didn't grow up with people like Eddie Cochran and Gene Vincent in our blood the way you did. So it's of a much lesser importance. We got Cliff Richard and the Shadows!!
These early American groups meant nothing to me until I discovered them through the Beatles (I'm a Yank, just for the record). In reading the Beatles Bios, I kept reading about how John loved Be-Bop-a-Lula, how Paul met John and the first song he played for him was Eddie Cochrane's 20-flight Rock, how they emulated the Everly Brothers, and how George's big guitar hero was Carl Perkins (not to mention Chuck Berry), and how Paul's earliest vocal influence was Little Richard. So I just started reading about them, and then listening to them, and then I got completely hooked. I have to say that I never really looked into Gene Vincent or Eddie Cochrane until browsing and visiting pc31's sig sites (thanks, pc31!). Next up - - Johnny Burnette!
So to the degree that these guys were the Beatles' (and Stones', and Yardbirds') cultural icons, in a way I think they can be considered all our icons.
By the way, from Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochrane I've made my way forward this time, to a group called the Stray Cats. These guys are completely Rockabilly, and it is clear that they completely worship "Gene and Eddie" - they've got a song by the same name, and I noticed on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dh0riVP3E video that Brian Setzer's guitar seems like an identical one to Eddie Cochrane's (which is in the Hall of Fame). Ironically, the Stray Cats could not find any commercial success here in the states until ... they went to England!
BTW, there's a huge contingent from Britain at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from after the 50s - Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Yardbirds, Queen, Cream, Led Zep (I think ...), Stones, Herman's Hermits, Stones, Wings, Hollies. So icons for all!
Peace and Love -
I love John, I love Paul, And George and Ringo, I love them all!
That's really cool that you got to go to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Hope you had fun! I was there last summer, I only live about a 30 minute drive from Cleveland, so I'm very lucky! John's report card was very interesting, didn't he have like a 3% in Math or something crazy like that? They also had the handwritten lyrics of In My Life, and I saw that Sgt.Pepper outfit. I loved looking at all the Beatle stuff, it was amazing.
A few years ago they had a John Lennon exhibit there upstairs, with tons of interesting things like the glasses he was wearing when he died. I wish I had been a fan then, I could of saw it! Hopefully they'll have a Beatles exhibit set up, I think every year they come up with a new one. I don't think they've had a Beatles one yet, surprisingly.
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These early American groups meant nothing to me until I discovered them through the Beatles (I'm a Yank, just for the record). In reading the Beatles Bios, I kept reading about how John loved Be-Bop-a-Lula, how Paul met John and the first song he played for him was Eddie Cochrane's 20-flight Rock, how they emulated the Everly Brothers, and how George's big guitar hero was Carl Perkins (not to mention Chuck Berry), and how Paul's earliest vocal influence was Little Richard. So I just started reading about them, and then listening to them, and then I got completely hooked. I have to say that I never really looked into Gene Vincent or Eddie Cochrane until browsing and visiting pc31's sig sites (thanks, pc31!). Next up - - Johnny Burnette!
So to the degree that these guys were the Beatles' (and Stones', and Yardbirds') cultural icons, in a way I think they can be considered all our icons.
By the way, from Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochrane I've made my way forward this time, to a group called the Stray Cats. These guys are completely Rockabilly, and it is clear that they completely worship "Gene and Eddie" - they've got a song by the same name, and I noticed on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dh0riVP3E video that Brian Ferry's guitar seems like an identical one to Eddie Cochrane's (which is in the Hall of Fame). Ironically, the Stray Cats could not find any commercial success here in the states until ... they went to England!
BTW, there's a huge contingent from Britain at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from after the 50s - Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Yardbirds, Queen, Cream, Led Zep (I think ...), Stones, Herman's Hermits, Stones, Wings, Hollies. So icons for all!
Peace and Love -
his last name is setzer not perry ma'am...and they covered songs by gene and eddie too...
So to the degree that these guys were the Beatles' (and Stones', and Yardbirds') cultural icons, in a way I think they can be considered all our icons.
Lovely thought!
I think I've heard of the Stray Cats. I'm rediscovering our musical past also, by way of this board and everyone's recommendations. It's very educational.
All you've got to do is choose love. That's how I live it now. I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden. I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007
For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
You're gonna hate me PC but I struggle with most music made before 64. I even find the Please Please Me album an almost impossible listen. The only exception is Spector and the girl bands. Like Paul, not to denegrate the rock and rollers importance or legacy. I just can't relate to it.
I'm coming around to think that music pre '64 is better than anything since '64. Give me Ain't That A Shame over almost anything, the girl bands also like The Shirelles are maybe up with the best groups, better than most of the last 40 years and anything from the last 20 years. Real music transcends any passage of time.
I think I've heard of the Stray Cats. I'm rediscovering our musical past also, by way of this board and everyone's recommendations. It's very educational.
It's such great fun!
I love John, I love Paul, And George and Ringo, I love them all!
sorry about that ma'am stuff...lets call it a typo there buddy.....
Thank heavens we cleared that up! I was picturing Alexis with breasts, and it was disturbing me...
All you've got to do is choose love. That's how I live it now. I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden. I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007
For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
Very cool, glad you got to have that experience. No offense to anyone, but the Hall of Fame is the only reason I'd go to Ohio. I got to go to the John Lennon Museum in Saitama, Japan. It was so great I wanted to move in! Saw John's Sgt. Pepper jacket, his passports, and Daily Howl papers were there. Plus a lot of stuff that I’m sure rotates. If you’re ever in that part of the world check it out!
"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination"-JL
"It's fear of the unknown. The unknown is what it is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that--it's all illusion. Unknown is what it is. Accept that it's unknown and it's plain sailing. Everything is unknown--then you're ahead of the game. That's what it is. Right?”-JL
The Rock Hall's a great place. I saw David Crosby's first liver. Sun Studios is also a trip; Elvis' microphone and such. There was a young band recording there the day I went in. I thought, how great to keep it vibrant like that. And those lucky guys ... I'd love to go back when there's a Beatles special display, it was U2 and Floyd's "The Wall" when I was there. Sounds like it would be interesting, but it wasn't, really. I'd also recommend the British Museum for some handwritten lyrics. In that setting, it gives you a sense of their importance. As I recall, it's not far from the Rosetta Stone. I haven't been to Liddypol since ... '88? I'd love to see Beatles Story. I think I saw it's precursor. Just walking on Penny Lane and talking to a young girl living at Strawberry Fields made my whole trip there. And the Jac ... Best, walrus
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