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DaveRam
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I stayed up to watch Obama's speech last night , i'm not very interested in polotics as a rule as i believe they all promise you things and once they get in they nearly always let you down .
But i was quite impressed with Obama last night and if he was going for election in the UK , he would get my vote .
Think it will be tuff for him though as McCain is a wily old fox , it's a clever move from him today to pick a women running mate .


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Winston Churchill did rather well for Britain with words. As long as the people can be inspired, then the change can come. Obama should take this one down...It's all in his hands. With a good team rallying around him, there is surely no better option right now for America?

interesting to see what else McCain can come up with.


Lincoln ... Churchill ... Kennedy. Words lead to motivation, and action. Now Obama ... I hope he makes it.

BTW - Kennedy studied Churchill's speeches his whole life. I love reading him also.


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I stayed up to watch Obama's speech last night , i'm not very interested in polotics as a rule as i believe they all promise you things and once they get in they nearly always let you down .
But i was quite impressed with Obama last night and if he was going for election in the UK , he would get my vote .
Think it will be tuff for him though as McCain is a wily old fox , it's a clever move from him today to pick a women running mate .


I wonder if McCain knew when he picked her that she is under investigation in her own state for abuse of power (tried to get the man who just finished a very messy divorce with her sister fired, and he apparently was a government employee - cop or something like that).

THere are only 8 more weeks till the election, he will have to spend 1 or 2 of those defending her on those issues ... valuable time wasted!!



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Who is the most pissed off about the female VP pick ... Hillary?

I think she was thinking - "there now, I've given a good speech, now all I have to do is pretend just enough to campaign for Obama so that people think I was working hard on his behalf  , he loses, then I'm the nominee in 4 years  ".

NOW, I think that instead she'll have to be VERY active telling woman that Jesse Helms in a Skirt is not what her movement was about ... VERY active to prevent any bleeding of single issue gender voters to the Palin side. If she's not perceived as working VERY hard, and if Obama loses, the Democrats will blame her almost as much as they blamed Nader for the 2000 loss.

"Darn, and I thought I could just coast for another 8 weeks ..."

BTW - is it true that McCain's pick was married to Michael Palin in the early 70s?


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^^^^^^^^^WHAT????????  Michael Palin...............no way.........just the same last name..............






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^^^^^^BTW..............Palin is my age, 44.  She would have to have married him when she was 10 years old..................






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Governor Palin in her office last year. Dad shot the bear.  




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Governor Palin in her office last year. Dad shot the bear.  





^^^^^^^^Cool picture there Geoff!!!!  BTW, PETA oughta have a field day with that pix.  Hee, hee......







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PETA oughta have a field day with that pix.


  

I'm sure they've got their crayons and cardboard out already, and no doubt a caravan of the perpetually outraged will soon be cluttering up a street near you (and worse, me).

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Great picture Geoff
I'm even more sure now she's Michael Palin's bastard daughter , she's just so Monty Python , she's a lumber Jack and she don't care


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^ She eats moose burgers, too, apparently, so I suspect she's got a few of these lying around the house as well:

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If I were a woman ("and you were my man" ... sorry, wrong song) - I would feel horribly insulted that McCain would think I would vote for a running mate just because they were lacking a pen*s.

Would push me away from McCain, even if I had been keeping my options open to that point.


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If I were a woman ("and you were my man" ... sorry, wrong song) - I would feel horribly insulted that McCain would think I would vote for a running mate just because they were lacking a pen*s.

Would push me away from McCain, even if I had been keeping my options open to that point.


The Republicans just don't get "identity" politics, Democrat style, and when they take a shot at it they usually just come off as being condescending and crassly calculating. That doesn't mean their intended target group won't buy it, though, and this could get interesting depending on how well Palin performs.
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^ She eats moose burgers, too, apparently, so I suspect she's got a few of these lying around the house as well:



^^^^^Another good pix there, Geoff.  And PETA don't DARE come down here to Arkansas.  Too many hunters..........and did you know you could(can) actually kill someone "legally" during deer season..........say, "I thought it was a deer".............just a thought and opinion.  Now back to the subject at hand..............






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The Republicans just don't get "identity" politics, Democrat style, and when they take a shot at it they usually just come off as being condescending and crassly calculating. That doesn't mean their intended target group won't buy it, though, and this could get interesting depending on how well Palin performs.



So, what is the net benefit of picking Palin going to be?
   - She will gain some Clintonistas, but not too many if Hillary stumps hard and says things like "How dumb do you think we are to fall for that ... Jesse Helms in a Dress isn't what we were fighting for ... this Barbie doll is against woman's rights to choose, is even MORE RIGHT WING THAN BUSH-CHENEY-McCAIN!!! .
   - She will lose a lot of bubba votes - guys who can't imagine a woman as a commander in chief, especially one that looks like she could be in a glamour magazine. Hey, she hunts and fishes ... they'd like to date her, yes; follow her into war, no.

I think the net result of this is that she will lose more Republican votes than steal Democratic votes. The wild card really is ... how many of the evangelical right who would have stayed at home with a Romney/Biden as VP will now come out and vote McCain?

My guess - I hope I'm right - is that this just gave the election to Obama. ... assuming no hubristic-based catastrophes.


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