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harihead
February 5, 2008, 4:57am Report to Moderator

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Reposting the link here because it's such a great song:

Yes, We Can! - Si, Se Puede!

The "Yes We Can" song is a great song. Play it and cry. Here's a link to the song & video, featuring a star cast, by Will.i.am of The Black Eyed Peas. Inspired by Barack Obama's 'Yes We Can' speech.

http://www.yeswecansong.com

http://www.barackobama.com/


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Oh please. He's a politician!


I meant smart, reliable, decent and reasonable for a politician.  


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We had a little political discussion in class today and this one girl said something that made everybody go    

She said that O'Bama wasn't going to get elected because 1. He's black 2. He'll get assassinated because he's black and 3. His name is too close to Osama.

Yikes


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I think this person is voicing a lot of the common fears. A friend recently saw Obama speak and she reported she was relieved to see that he was very well guarded. Still, when a very charasmatic individual emerges, you always have the danger of some fool trying to off him or her.

As far as the "he's black" and "his name sounds like", there are plenty of dead-ignorant Americans to whom this will make a difference. Our election process often shows off the intelligence of our great nation to the rest of the world, and we haven't been holding up too well in that regard.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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We had a little political discussion in class today and this one girl said something that made everybody go    

She said that O'Bama wasn't going to get elected because 1. He's black 2. He'll get assassinated because he's black and 3. His name is too close to Osama.

Yikes


That's actually pretty observant. An awful lot of people will not vote for him because he's black.

Clinton and Obama both have a different but absolutely equal advantage and disadvantage. Some people will vote for Obama because he's not female, some will vote for Clinton because she's not black.

Get used to saying 'President McCain'.


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Sorry to come over all clueless like, but why does Hillary Clinton's web site only list 49 states?


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Get used to saying 'President McCain'.

If that happens I'll go live in whatever 50th state is sliding under the radar...



All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

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A couple of friends of mine were just talking about Obama and assassination. I was shocked. I hadn't even given the possibility a thought! Personally, I don't think this country is in that place anymore. The two I was chatting with are both older people and were around in the sixties, so I guess to them it's more of a reality. I just don't believe people in this country have that intense level of hatred towards African American's anymore. Not to that extent. I mean, there's always a faction and I believe that faction is very small and stupid and not a threat. I also believe that he's got one hell of a security team and will not put himself at such risk. But that's just me trying to have faith in humanity. Probably just being naive and stupid though as was pointed out to me by my baby boomer friends!  

Anyway, I think if anything the hatred aimed at us from outside the country has brought a feeling of closeness with one another regardless of race. At least it felt that way right after you know what. I still think those feelings prevail on some level. But then I live in a VERY liberal city where people are extremely accepting of one another. Maybe that's affected my judgment.


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A couple of friends of mine were just talking about Obama and assassination.


That thought occurred to me, too, I'm sorry to say. It's not the racist angle that concerns me so much as it is the loser looking for his fifteen minutes of fame bit.

As for the broader question of who should become president, I'm still naively idealistic enough (just) to hope that a guy like Obama could make a difference. I'm also cynical enough to know where I'd place my bet on his chances of succeeding.
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Obama made another terrific speech, this time addressing the unpopular racial question. In my mind, he handles these types of divisive issues beautifully.

You can watch or read the whole speech here:

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3511&id=12333-1263300-H1Mh81&t=546

If you're busy, here's a highlight from the speech:

http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3510&id=12333-1263300-H1Mh81&t=547


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

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I have the dreadful impression that Jeremiah Wright just tilted this race back towards Senator Clinton, perhaps decisively.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/us/politics/18wright.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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After watching a documentary on television about the Iraq swindle, I have lost all faith in politicians. In the end, it's all just a bunch of liars.
Sorry, no offence intended, but it was another drop in a full bucket.


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I watched Obamas speech on BBC and I liked what he said but...I reckon Hilary got to Jeremiah.

I mostly agree Bobber...I also saw that an ex-CIA agent of 20 years experience is releasing a book on Iraq...In the interview he pretty much declares that Sunny's & Muslims should be left to civil war by pulling American troops out and his other big statement is that the US should not rely on Gulf oil. It's all a bloody mess.


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and his other big statement is that the US should not rely on Gulf oil. It's all a bloody mess.


What an original thought! And let's not forget all the fresh water they pipe in from Canada.


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Don't know if we watched the same.    My main thing is that in order to go to war, lies were collected and presented as the truth. It is proven that Bush and Blair went to war (and other countries as well because 'if you are not with us, you are against us') based on lies. The complete statement Colin Powell made in the UN meeting was a big lie. He might not have known that himself, but probably he was used. To me, it is still unbelievable that George W Bush is the American president and one of the most powerful men on Earth to this very day. And our own administration over here still has some of the same people on high posts, who were involved in getting along with these lies. They have never been called to justice. In the documentary it was proven that the press and the public were manipulated by the militairy and so administrations of the US and (in a lesser degree) the UK. In the first days of the Iraq War they were told nothing but a few positive points in order to make us believe that it would all soon be over without much loss of lives. And once again, the lie has been proven a lie. Now, how can I be convinced of the credibility and integrity of ANY politician anywhere on this planet? It looks like a complete set up. The Dutch administration went along with Bush and a short time later, the Dutch minister Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (then of Foreign Affairs) became the new secretary general of the NATO. It is all planned, they all shake hands and have a few laughs together. There might be some politicians who are truely working on the people's case, but even in my own village, it's mostly for their own good that they base their decisions on.


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