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fendertele
September 20, 2007, 12:49pm Report to Moderator

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^^^^ good point


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This coming from the same guy who gave us 'Two Virgins', 'Life With The Lions', and 'The Wedding Album'.



These were recorded in 68'/69'


you're correct, I meant extraneous-Beatles. Just like "How I Won The War", when John trapsed off to film that during the fab years also--or when Harrison made Wonderwall music as a side project as the first "Zapple" release, the relative artistic "worth" of a given piece is purely in the eye of the beholder.

*ALSO* I must confess John's early releases w/ Yoko I agree, should've never seen the light of day. I think Lennon  assumed the world would accept his experimental period w/ no resistance. They were atrocious works (endless heartbeat sounds plus the incessant "John?".."Yoko?" phrase over and over again.) This kind of "avant garde" should be visual rather than audio IMHO (many ppl were also opposed to his non-musical statements such as "Bagism"- which I thought was a fantastic way to call attention to the carnage in Vietnam. As far as the titles you cited above, I had all these albums at one time, but as I look back, I don't know why I purchased them (probably because of the historical (as opposed to aesthetic value of of the "Two Virgins" cover-which I bought off a friend who "couldn't bare to look  at John's c*ck another second", as he put it back in the early 70's.  But I do believe his true post-Beatle output (especially the first two LPs (P.O.B. and Imagine show great inspiration and brilliance--a brilliance I believe (unlike yourself) was present even in his A.R. material as well---but yes, I take your point, opinions can differ, which is perfectly ok.

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I really don't think Lennon was inspired by the Kinks.
He never said anything & never really took notice of
much of a lot of the music scene during that time i reckon.
I think he just loved writing silly litttle ditty's!



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I can see the comparison with the ditties from the medley - but Come Together, I Want You & Because are a totally different kettle of fish. All 3 are examples of why the Beatles were good for each other and why the split was wrong on so many levels. Would these three songs have been as great if they had been recorded by the Plastic Ono Band or Lennon solo? The arrangement of Because was a George Martin triumph, and Come Together & I Want You work so well because they are so very clearly loving what they are playing and each member added something vital to the mix with both songs representing high points for both Starr as a drummer & Macca as a bassist
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I think John was mainly inspired by heroin and Yoko during this period.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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I think John was mainly inspired by heroin and Yoko during this period.


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I think John was mainly inspired by heroin and Yoko during this period.


And Chuck Berry of course. He almost stole Come Together!  
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John was always trying to tap an altered state of consciousness to achieve creative thinking. It began with beer. Then on to the Vick inhaler strip that Royston Ellis introduced us too. Then on to Captogen and Preludin, then Transcendental Meditation, then LSD, then Primal Scream etc
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"I really don't think Lennon was inspired by the Kinks.
He never said anything & never really took notice of"

He was supposed to be quite a fan of the Kinks' flop 'Wonderboy' single. The sweet thing is that knowing Lennon was a fan made Ray Davies not care that Wonderboy had been such a flop!
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Quoted from Bill Harry
John was always trying to tap an altered state of consciousness to achieve creative thinking. It began with beer. Then on to the Vick inhaler strip that Royston Ellis introduced us too. Then on to Captogen and Preludin, then Transcendental Meditation, then LSD, then Primal Scream etc

you forgot the pot bill.....so then mushrooms where never a thing????



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Quoted from Bill Harry
John was always trying to tap an altered state of consciousness to achieve creative thinking. It began with beer. Then on to the Vick inhaler strip that Royston Ellis introduced us too. Then on to Captogen and Preludin, then Transcendental Meditation, then LSD, then Primal Scream etc


Precious invaluable observations ... thanks Bill!

BTW - Vick's inhaler strip...?



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Precious invaluable observations ... thanks Bill!

BTW - Vick's inhaler strip...?



Im gonna sound a little niave here but is vicks inhaler strap something similiar to vicks vapo rub ? only its strapped to youre face and gets you high if breathed in over long periods ?


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