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BlueMeanie
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Quoted from Kevin


But still (from Wiki):"The song was heavily influenced by the music of The Byrds. Reportedly, Harrison sent an acetate of the song to Roger McGuinn — on which he had written, "This is for Jim" — because the riff in "If I Needed Someone" was based on McGuinn's riff in "The Bells of Rhymney." The song's introduction and coda are also very similar to those of The Byrds' song."
And considering Taxman is really a Harrison/Lennon composition and he knicked bits of a James Taylor song for Something, the list of true Harrison classics grows steadily shorter.
And lets not even talk about My Sweet Lord.


Taylor gets signed to Apple, can't believe his luck, and George nick's the opening lines to one of his songs!


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It gets worse. Seems Here Comes The Sun is really a McQuinn/Clapton/Harrison composition:
"The song had its genesis with a songwriting collaboration between Harrison and close friend Eric Clapton called "Badge," recorded by Clapton's group Cream, and featuring an arpeggiated guitar riff that is similar to the one that forms the bridge of "Here Comes the Sun."
Harrison capoed his guitar on the 7th fret, resulting the final key of A major. He also used the same technique on his 1965 song "If I Needed Someone," which shares a similar melodic pattern."


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George fans on the rack.


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Take cover!

Isn't the bridge in 'Badge' the bit that he wrote though?


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Isn't the bridge in 'Badge' the bit that he wrote though?


Details schmetails. Lets not get hung up on technicalities here. At best he ripped himself off.


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In August 1964 I did a series of four colour covers for Mersey Beat, each one of a solo Beatle. I had to give each one a name in the headline above the photo. When I came to John I thought: 'John Lennon: Literary Beatle.' With Paul it was 'Paul McCartney: Songwriter; for Ringo I put: 'Loveable Beatle: Ringo Starr.' Considering what to call George I put 'George Harrison: Quiet Beatle.' It's such a long time ago now that I don't know whether this was the first mention of him as the quiet Beatle. Does anyone know of an earlier time when he was called this in print?
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But WHY did you call him the Quiet Beatle then, Bill?


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as i originally posted in all the interviews around the time he was being labeled the quiet one, he always seemed to speak more than he would in the later years.


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Because I kept meeting George on so many occasions and he just seemed reluctant to be involved in the songwriting activities or the interviews. You only had to see his comments re school to know that he had strong opinions, but always seemed reluctant to voice them. I kept meeting him in clubs at night and asked why he wasn't writing songs. I pointed out that the first mention of any original Beatles song was one he'd written called 'Cry For a Shadow', which was mentioned on the front cover of issue No. 2 of Mersey Beat.
I asked him why he wasn't writing again, why all the original numbers were just Lennon & McCartney numbers. I asked him if he'd write a number with Ringo and he later told me he did. But God knows what it was or what happened to it. I saw him coming out of the Cabin club in Wood Street and took him back to the Mersey Beat office around the corner and gave him a Kingsize Taylor album, under the name 'The Shakers', which they'd sent me from Hamburg and I quizzed him again about him writing songs. Then, when I was with them at the ABC, Blackpool, George thanked me. I asked him what for. He said he was going out to the clubs one night and thought he'd bump into me and I'd be hustling him about writing a song again, so he thought of the title 'Don't Bother Me' and decided to write a song with that name. He told me he'd already received over seven thousand pounds in royalties.
As for the name, when I was thinking of what to call George it just struck me that he was the quietest member as he wasn't as vocal as John, Paul or even Ringo. But as far as I'm concernedc, he had a unique and bizarre sense of humour, and if you want to know about it, I'll tell you.
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I love this anecdote describing George's choice of first song-- 'Don't Bother Me'  

Bill, I'd adore hearing about his unique and bizarre sense of humour.

*sits down to listen*


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meet too *sits down to listen also*


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Well I'm definetly in Bill.


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Count me in Bill


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     George did have that dry ‘Scouse’ sense of humour. He also had that touch of surrealism which young British people developed through listening to ‘The Goon Show.’ This became evident fairly early on and later, as George became ‘stretched’ through his contact with the mystic qualities of Eastern philosophy, his comments acquired a maturity and insight.
     At one time George dated Iris Caldwell, sister of popular Liverpool singer Rory Storm. When he was in Hamburg in 1962 he sent Iris’s mother Vi a postcard that read:
     “Mrs Violent Stubb.
     “Darling Vi,
     “We are all missing you very much. To caress your teeth once more would be just heaven. Also to hold your lungs in mine and drink T.B. John sends you his lunch, also Paul and Ringworm greet you too.
     “It’s not too much fun here but only one week to go now, so it’s not so bad now. Have tea ready on Sunday 18th.
     “Cheerio, love from George and friends.”
      George’s deadpan humour was obvious right at the beginning. When Paul was late for the first official meeting between Brian Epstein and the Beatles at the Nems office; Epstein was annoyed at what he considered Paul’s tardiness. “Sorry, Mr Epstein,” said George, “He’s just been having a bath.”
     Brian was still angry and said, “This is disgraceful. He is going to be very late.”
     “Late,” said George, “but very clean.”
     It was George’s wit that helped them to secure their record contract with George Martin.
     Following their recording audition, Martin called them into the control room to listen to the playback, saying, “You must listen to it, and if there’s anything you don’t like, tell me, and we’ll try and do something about it.”
     George said, “Well, for a start, I don’t like your tie.”
     Martin was so amused by the comment; it endeared him to the Beatles and their sense of humour.    
     When the Beatles were in Washington in February 1964, local disc jockey Carroll James was interviewing the Beatles when George said to him, “I wanna be a baggy sweeger.” “A baggy sweeger?” asked James, wondering what George was talking about. “Oh yeah,” said the Beatle, “You know, in every town there’s twenty-five baggy sweegers and every morning they get up and go out to the airport and baggy sweeger all around.”
     In 1965, during the Beatles tour of America, a chartered aircraft developed engine trouble and was replaced by an old plane that was to fly them to the West Coast. Noting the worn fittings in the interior, a worried George began to examine them. He noted a dusty coil of rope on a rack and asked the stewardess what it was. “It’s an escape ladder,” she said. “How long is it?” asked George. “About 12 feet, I guess,” she replied. “I take it we shall fly to California at a steady 13 feet all the way then,” said George.
     Some examples of the Beatles sense of humour were taken seriously. The famous hairstyle was developed while they were in Hamburg, before they became famous. They had been asked about their hair so many times that when an American journalist in Paris in January, 1964 asked George how they came out their distinctive hair style, he said, “we were coming out of a swimming baths in Liverpool and we liked the way it looked.” As a result, the story continued to surface for many years that they discovered the hairstyle after they’d been swimming.
     When discussing their appearance in Holland George asked Paul if he remembered the house they stayed in at Harlech. Paul couldn’t. George told him, “Yes you do! There was a woman who had a dog with no legs. She used to take it out in the morning for a slide.”
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What's a baggy sweeger!?!?    

Thank you, Bill, this was adorable. I will never think of lungs the same way again. *slides down the couch along with the dog with no legs... I think I know that dog...*


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

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