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I don't know where I heard or read it, but I recall that George, Paul and Ringo stated quite clearly that they were not interested in doing any more anthologies because they thought that selling the leftovers of the leftovers would be kind of a rip off.


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I've heard a lot of bootlegs, and an Anthology 4 would just be re-treading old ground with inferior material. Whilst it would appeal to most of us, it wouldn't really appeal to anyone else. The Let It Be stuff is worthwhile for the chat. Musically it's pretty dreadful. As for the two Holy Grails: Carnival Of Light, and the 27 minute Helter Skelter. You can forget about 'Carnival'. George didn't want it on the last Anthologies, so it's never coming out. I'm not even sure that the 27 minute Helter Skelter exists anymore, though there is an edited version on Anthology, so it's possible. But it's probably awful.


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All is available on bootlegs. Why bother for Anthologies?



you couldn't be farther from the truth! Carnival of Light and Helter Skelter take 3 aren't available on any bootlegs.


It's great...it sold...it's the bloody Beatles' White Album, shut up
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Alright. Most is available on bootlegs.
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you couldn't be farther from the truth! Carnival of Light and Helter Skelter take 3 aren't available on any bootlegs.


That stuff is exactly what you wouldn't get, though.


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I've always heard of that infamous "Carnival" tape--from Paul's early experimental period (spurred by the musical influences of John Cage and his then association w/ renown surrealists during his Indica gallery stage)so I'm very interested in hearing that, but I have no interest whatsoever in hearing a protracted version of "Helter Skelter", which I assume (having never heard anything other than the official White Album take and the Anthology version), would be nothing more than a long drawn out and uninspired jam...(unlike the brillaint fade on "Jude")
I'm quite happy with the "abridged" version of H.S. I've always known...the less reminder of the Manson association, the better....(IMO)
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I've always heard of that infamous "Carnival" tape--from Paul's early experimental period (spurred by the musical influences of John Cage and his then association w/ renown surrealists during his Indica gallery stage)so I'm very interested in hearing that, but I have no interest whatsoever in hearing a protracted version of "Helter Skelter", which I assume (having never heard anything other than the official White Album take and the Anthology version), would be nothing more than a long drawn out and uninspired jam...(unlike the brillaint fade on "Jude")
I'm quite happy with the "abridged" version of H.S. I've always known...the less reminder of the Manson association, the better....(IMO)


I think - though I'm too lazy to look it up - that the Anthology version of HS is an edit from the 27 minute take.


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I think - though I'm too lazy to look it up - that the Anthology version of HS is an edit from the 27 minute take.


I'll take your word for it. As for me, I dont want to hear ANY 27 min. version of it. It's monotonous to my ear...which is SO uncharacteristic of the band I love the most. But without "splitting hairs" about relative differences of takes of the song, Helter Skelter is essentially, IMO, an example of an early heavy metal song--something one doesnt readily associate w/ the Beatles (although they were extremely eclectic), this song--apart from it's demonic association which I dont put much stock in, has always been a lot of noise to me. I detest it. When I want heavy metal, I put on Zeppelin. This is not the Fab's forte. McCartney is more Cole Porter than Robert Plant.
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We'll never get an official Anthology 4, but with all the stuff that's floating around the internet these days, some enterprising bootlegger may well compile one.

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There is so much available on good quality Bootlegs now - Ebbett's/TOUP/Purple Chick/Lazy Tortoise etc. - that there really is no need for an Anthology 4. It would just be more outtakes of the same songs anyway. And whilæst the hardcore fans would love it, the media would slate them for it.


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There is so much available on good quality Bootlegs now - Ebbett's/TOUP/Purple Chick/Lazy Tortoise etc. - that there really is no need for an Anthology 4. It would just be more outtakes of the same songs anyway. And whilæst the hardcore fans would love it, the media would slate them for it.


Agree totally, but I'd love to see a good unofficial release. I'll probably eventually compile one for my own use, just to get the best bits all in one place.
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Agree totally, but I'd love to see a good unofficial release. I'll probably eventually compile one for my own use, just to get the best bits all in one place.


There are unofficial Anthologies.

Anthology More
http://www.bootlegzone.com/files.php?section=1&sort=1
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=tbam2&section=1

Anthology Plus
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=iu9750_2&section=1
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=iu9750_1&section=1

And plenty more than that.


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There are unofficial Anthologies.


Thanks for the tip. I remember seeing copies of Artifacts (actually a pre-Anthology set, I think) and Anthology Plus at a shop in Toronto about ten years ago. I was sorely tempted to buy them, but the asking price was insane. Those sets are good starts, but in these post- Purple Chick days, I suspect there's a better collection to be made. Those PC sets are amazing.


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but in these post- Purple Chick days, I suspect there's a better collection to be made. Those PC sets are amazing.


They are my standard Beatles references now. The 'official' CD's have been consigned to the loft.


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They are my standard Beatles references now. The 'official' CD's have been consigned to the loft.


Same here. The main discs are still on my computer as WAV files. Apple/EMI won't do half as good a job when or if they ever get around to issuing a remastered series. EMI have the benefit of having the master tapes, of course, but that's the only advantage their sets will have.

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