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Buttmunker
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I love this song, which I consider a gift from John from heaven, as he had been dead about four years when it was released.

This was recorded as a demo by John in order to give over to Ringo Starr.  However, John died before this happened.  

The song is beautiful, and quite produced.  Sounds like more than a demo to me.  
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Its probably my favorite of Johns right after 'Mind Games'


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Great song- i dont reckon it would have been Ringo's cup of tea...

Quite surprised its a demo....


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I mean, it really sounded finished!  So finished that I'm surprised it wasn't on the Double Fantasy album.
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Quoted from Buttmunker
I love this song, which I consider a gift from John from heaven, as he had been dead about four years when it was released.


I'd rather see it as a cash-moment from Yoko.

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I'd rather see it as a reminder of what we lost.
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Is this the song "Nobody told me there'd be days like these ..."?

If so .... I didn't realize, had forgotten, it hadn't come out with Double Fantasy. I always thought it was a great finished song!


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And George and Ringo,
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Quoted from tkitna
Its probably my favorite of Johns right after 'Mind Games'


I've always liked "Watching the Wheels go Round" also.


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I love Paul,
And George and Ringo,
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This is a great song, and talks about his U.F.O. experience.
It doesn't sound like a demo, thank God.
It was recorded in 6 & 8 August 1984, so easly would be included on Double Fantasy.


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Quoted from wingsman

It was recorded in 6 & 8 August 1984, so easly would be included on Double Fantasy.


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Quoted from wingsman

It was recorded in 6 & 8 August 1984, so easly would be included on Double Fantasy.


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Hello Buttmunker. You branded Paul's solo career as soft rock. I'd be interested in the catagory you'd place this little gem? All in the name of good conversation of course. (you're labels do fascinate me.)


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Unfortunately the version on 'Working Class Hero' is strangely instrumental. It sounds like a jam in a rehearsal studio with poor sound quality. It does though, sound like it would have benefited from being given to Bruce Springsteen.


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Unfortunately the version on 'Working Class Hero' is strangely instrumental. It sounds like a jam in a rehearsal studio with poor sound quality. It does though, sound like it would have benefited from being given to Bruce Springsteen.




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Hello Buttmunker. You branded Paul's solo career as soft rock. I'd be interested in the catagory you'd place this little gem? All in the name of good conversation of course. (you're labels do fascinate me.)


For the name of good conversation (that's a first), I'd consider "Nobody Told Me" the pinnacle of 80's rock.  It blended seamlessly with the likes of Hall & Oates, Toto, and Quarterflash.  The thing about it is, unless someone pointedly told you it was John Lennon, the listener wouldn't have guessed it to be so.  Okay, maybe that's bullshit, but I'm telling you here and now that it was perfect for the time it was released in 1984.  It was obviously recorded five years earlier (1979-80), but it doesn't sound dated.  It has a fresh, funky-rock sound.
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Hmmm, I've never really related it to 80's rock, but I suppose it was (although I see no comparison whatsoever to Hall & Oates, Toto, or Quarterflash and I like all three of those bands a lot).

I always thought of it as a song that would have been perfect for Ringo or even a comparison to 'The Ballad Of John and Yoko' except this song was good.


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Quoted from Buttmunker


For the name of good conversation (that's a first), I'd consider "Nobody Told Me" the pinnacle of 80's rock.  It blended seamlessly with the likes of Hall & Oates, Toto, and Quarterflash.


Bless. Personally, I'd put Paul's "Arrow Through Me" as much closer to Hall and Oates than Lennon ever got, but there you go. And Toto - ????
The pinnacle of eighties rock?? Surely you jest. In a competion with acts like   REM, The Smiths, The Pixies, The Cure, Husker Du.......???? Or are we talking the pinnacle of bland easy-on-the-ears FM rock, in which case you may have a point. But even then he's got to fight off The Police, U2, Simple Minds, Bowie....


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I now realise that my headphone jack was faulty, so I couldn't hear the vocals. Still sounds like a Springsteen song in the making though!


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Still sounds like a Springsteen song in the making though!


That's exactly what I thought. And there was no rocker more successful than Springsteen during the 80s.


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A good example of Lennon's songwriting
and "playing with words":

Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high

Everybody's flying and never touch the sky
Everybody's talking and no one says a word
Everybody's making love and no one really cares
Always something happening and nothing going on
There's always something happening cooking and nothing in the pot
Everyone's a winner
and no one seems to lose.
Everybody's flying and no one leaves the ground
Everybody's crying and no one makes a sound.
Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high
Everybody's flying and never touch the sky
There's Ufo's over New York and I ain't too surprised.
Nobody told me there'd be days like these



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I reckon this one was unfinished,when listening to it again last night i noticed that john didnt have his distinctive vocal 'effect' while singing(the usual double track/heavy reverb etc),but still its sounds really fresh.I also noticed(being a studio geek) a fault in the guitar track around 1.17,it misses a beat.
But apart from that,i love the track.Id love to know the whole story of how much John got finished before he died.I feel the bit where he shouts 'roll' is missing something,id imagine he would have had a killer lick in there somewhere instead of a more strum-like guitar track on there.......anyway
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