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DaveRam
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Is this a case of  "Macho Posturing " ??? Between John and Paul .



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Just John being a prick as usual.


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John was just having a laugh!



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John being a prick ? f*ck dat

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Nah..I think this was John's parody of a phony-a** urban-Liverpool "lad" trying to pass himself off as some agrarian sheep herder..but then you probably wouldnt get that, would ya ?

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Hee! Best answer yet, MMM!  


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Hee! Best answer yet, MMM!  


thx, but I wasnt trying to be funny. I was dead serious. Some ppl cant see the obvious even if you stick it in their face



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thx, but I wasnt trying to be funny. I was dead serious. Some ppl cant see the obvious even if you stick it in their face





What the f*** are you talking about? The only thing obvious about the pictures is that John did that as a rebuttal towards Paul. Why are you having issues with it?


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John being a prick ? f*ck dat

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Nah..I think this was John's parody of a phony-a** urban-Liverpool "lad" trying to pass himself off as some agrarian sheep herder..but then you probably wouldnt get that, would ya ?

geeez  


The fact that John felt the need to parody his old friend in such a way sort of does make him a bit prickish. Sorry, but it's true. He didn't do it to be artistic he was trying to get a rise out of Paul. Again. I can't imagine how a person can miss that. And why can't an urban born person develop a interest in rural living? What's phony about that? It isn't as if he went around pretending he was some working class hero when in reality he was raised comfortably middle class. Oh, wait...


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I like the fact John choose a clever animal to get his dig in , my expereience of sheep is there a bit dim .
Agree Sandra you can take to the country life if you grow up in a town , my mum's sister married a farmer and she's been farming over 50 years now .
Also Liverpool is surrounded by some lovely country side and when the Beatles were growing up it would have only been a bike ride away as it still is like most places in England .
Paul still lives in the country side ,although i think the farm in Scotland was more a retreat than a working farm.
Maybe John read the Ram as a devil jibe as the Ram is also linked to witchcraft ?


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I always thought (probably 'coz I read it somewhere as opposed to an original thought) that it was John expressing his anger at Paul in the way he knew best ... sardonic mockery. I think Paul actually started this battle of the album covers, with 2 beetles copulating on the back of his. Ironically, John looks as happy in that photo as in any photos of the era (or since?) that I can recall, none of that serious "I am ... John" stuff.

Remember, he also put "How Do You Sleep" on the Imagine album ("So Seargant Pepper caught you by surprise" - which always mystified me because I thought John had previously said he wasn't that enamored of the album ...), and "The only thing you done was Yesterday", and the amazing double slicing to bits "... and since you're gone it's just Another Day!").

I can definitely Imagine that John did NOT like that last song!


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John seems to have been rather paranoid at that time, seeing references to himself in everything Paul wrote. Though Paul never wrote anything about John that was as damning as 'How Do You Sleep'. And this picture makes him an even more flawed character in my eyes. I don't think it's funny at all, I think it's pathetic.


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John seems to have been rather paranoid at that time, seeing references to himself in everything Paul wrote. Though Paul never wrote anything about John that was as damning as 'How Do You Sleep'. And this picture makes him an even more flawed character in my eyes. I don't think it's funny at all, I think it's pathetic.



Yes, but just because one is paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get them!

I think it would be reasonable for John to have thought that Paul's song "Too Many People" was a jab at him, especially in light of the beetles on the album's back cover. He responded, it seems, by mocking Paul's "gentleman farmer" presentation. Very John IMO, and understandable given what was going on relationship-wise (I'm embarassed writing that word, afraid Harihead, writer supreme, may come upon this thread one day).

I bet George and Ringo laughed it up when they saw that!



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Very John IMO, and understandable given what was going on relationship-wise (I'm embarassed writing that word, afraid Harihead, writer supreme, may come upon this thread one day).

You're right, Alexis. This kind of word use definitely marks you down to become a member of Congress or the CEO of a major corporation. *promotes you*




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You're right, Alexis. This kind of word use definitely marks you down to become a member of Congress or the CEO of a major corporation. *promotes you*




Ackkk! Busted, and right away!





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Ackkk! Busted, and right away!

Really? I didn't realize you had been in office long enough to get up to much.



All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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