Quoted from DaveRam

I was looking at George's solo career on Billboard last night and he was as sussessful as John in terms of chart positions ?
So if he had formed a group be it a suppergroup or just a normal band he would have matched lazy Lennon ?

It's a shame about George's solo career. I think after Dark Horse flopped he treated his music career as a bit of a hobby. Obviously very sensitive to critisism.

Quoted from BlueMeanie

It's a shame about George's solo career. I think after Dark Horse flopped he treated his music career as a bit of a hobby. Obviously very sensitive to critisism.

With the plagarism case against his biggest hit still raging, albums flopping (in the UK), singles rarely making the top 30 and a disastrous tour, I think it would have been hard for anyone to have walked away from George's 74-75 period without feeling a little glum.

Quoted from Kevin

With the plagarism case against his biggest hit still raging, albums flopping (in the UK), singles rarely making the top 30 and a disastrous tour, I think it would have been hard for anyone to have walked away from George's 74-75 period without feeling a little glum.

Very true. I'll never understand why he didn't delay finishing his album, and re-schedule the tour until his voice had recovered.

Quoted from BlueMeanie

Very true. I'll never understand why he didn't delay finishing his album, and re-schedule the tour until his voice had recovered.

I know a lot of people blame his illness, but at the  end of the day the album/singles just aren't very good. And his decision to include Indian muscians, screw with the lyrics of his songs and the general sanctimonious holier-than-thou preachiness of the tour infuriated the fans just as much as his croaky voice.

Quoted from Kevin

I know a lot of people blame his illness, but at the  end of the day the album/singles just aren't very good. And his decision to include Indian muscians, screw with the lyrics of his songs and the general sanctimonious holier-than-thou preachiness of the tour infuriated the fans just as much as his croaky voice.

True again. I don't think the album was that bad, it had it's moments, but the preaching probably did it. People don't like other peoples religious beliefs rammed down their throats, they want rock 'n' roll. And Indian music wasn't, and still isn't big in the west. Modern western music relies (in the main) on a repetitive beat, and strict, tight timing, in order that the western brain can follow it. Indian music has a structure that is far more difficult to follow, leading to boredom. World music wasn't big then, and in the grand scheme of things, isn't even today. We can follow much African music very easily because of the roots that western pop music has. But Asian music is a different kettle of fish altogether.

I love that story from The Bangladesh concert, when the crowd enthusiasticly applauded Ravi, only for him to thank them, but that they were only tuning.
Must admit I haven't heard Dark Horse in decades. I really shoud give it another listen.

Quoted from DaveRam

I was looking at George's solo career on Billboard last night and he was as sussessful as John in terms of chart positions ?
So if he had formed a group be it a suppergroup or just a normal band he would have matched lazy Lennon ?

I don't know if he was lazy, I just always figured he ran out of the inner conflict and torment that was the seed for his writing GREAT music.

In Working Class Hero he lashed out at TV as the opiate of the masses, or something like that. Ironic that he wound up the last few years of his life staying in bed all day and watching TV, if what has been written is true.

Quoted from DaveRam

Was George in the wrong group ?
He had the ability to lead a group of his own and certainly the songs later on . Was he  "Treading Water " in The Beatles, should he have got out in 1967 and put his own band together ?

i think if anything george got lucky in meeting Lennon/McCartney, he was as said before a mediocre guitarist with mediocre song writing skills.

If you listen to most of his big songs with the Beatles it is actually the other members who make those songs, if you listen to the demo of something it is nothing special but put over it maccas great bass line and it makes it, and the same can be said for other tracks be it Clapton....

and as good as atmp was if it hadnt been for the beatles association would it have been what it was/is ?

something a friend pointed out to me is most beatles songs the vocals ,bass and drums are right forward in the mix then the guitars and keyboards are behind them, and i think he is right and i can see why because the most interesting things that went on in beatles songs came from either the vocals, bass or drums.

would the beatles have been improved with a better guitarist though? probably not because then there would have been a 3 way power struggle.

Quoted from Kevin

who could write 2 or 3 decent songs a year.  

Are you shitting me?
George has written some amazing music.

Quoted from dirtyoldsod

Are you shitting me?
George has written some amazing music.

imho he's wrote some good songs but nothing amazing.

Quoted from fendertele

imho he's wrote some good songs but nothing amazing.

I think he has, but then again that's just me.

Quoted from fendertele

If you listen to most of his big songs with the Beatles it is actually the other members who make those songs, if you listen to the demo of something it is nothing special but put over it maccas great bass line and it makes it, and the same can be said for other tracks be it Clapton....

The others are playing along, but who wrote the song?

Quoted from Wikipedia

"Something" received the Ivor Novello Award for Best Song Musically and Lyrically.

Quoted from Flaming Pie in the Sky

I think he has, but then again that's just me.



The others are playing along, but who wrote the song?

yeah i dont mean they wrote it but they took a mediocre song and added theyre parts to make it a good song

In my opinion, Here Comes The Sun, Something, and While My Guitar Gently Weeps aren't mediocre songs

But I think we're getting a bit off topic

indeed my apologies i think i went off on one :S

George in the wrong group !!!

No No No , how can anyone consider The Beatles without George , so he was`nt as a strong song writer as John and Paul but arnt those 2 the greatest song writers ever in pop music [ cant hear any arguements on that bit on here ]
Four lads from Liverpool ruled the world , not 3 of them and that quiet one, is it .
Check out how many young people today who are George fans just oh this Forum , and some old ones to