Quoted from Bobber

Because mono was the sound of the sixties and the way it was mixed in. There's differences in the mono and stereo mixes of the Beatles albums. BlueMeanie is your expert in these matters.

Quoted from Bungalow Bill

MOST OF US DO... we don't know harihead maybe only one ear

Quoted from Bungalow Bill

see all the discussion we get from a silly post

Quoted from Geoff

Check out a bootleg called Beware of ABCKO! It's the demos for ATMP. Info at Bootlegzone. Not sure that a proper mono mix of ATMP was ever made, although fold-downs could well exist.

Quoted from 1210

hi

i read that the new boot of all things must pass is a needle drop............surely it never appeared on vinyl in mono???
i know obscure mono albums do turn up in places like peru but..........................

Quoted from 1210

hi

i read that the new boot of all things must pass is a needle drop............surely it never appeared on vinyl in mono???
i know obscure mono albums do turn up in places like peru but..........................

Quoted from theebrianrector

Just got the Mid Valley Bootleg Mono pressing of All Things Must Pass and it's a needle drop straight off the South American pressing. The labels on the CD are the same as the original vinyl pressing. It's gotta be the stereo mix down to mono like we've talked about but it sounds quite warm and full. But I bought it as a collectible. Not for the fidelity. Nothing more nothing less.

Quoted from Geoff

Interesting: I could only find one reference to a South American ATMP pressing, and I'm assuming it's stereo because they don't say anything (that I can see, anyway) about it being mono. But judging from some of the comments there, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were making fold downs!

http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=262875

Quoted from BlueMeanie

South Americans seem to be known for doing mono mixes. One of the best known mono mixes of Abbey Road is Brazilian.

Quoted from BlueMeanie

South Americans seem to be known for doing mono mixes. One of the best known mono mixes of Abbey Road is Brazilian.

Quoted from harihead

*takes Kevin out back and beats him bloody with a two-by-four*

Sorry, I have only so much patience!   *smacks you again*

Well, everyone has their taste. You think these songs were molehills. Okay. No one has to like all the Beatles songs or all of their solo work. George's solo work is my favorite of the ex-Beatles and he accomplishes this because he brings so much of himself and his philosophy to his music. I don't want mindless chatter; I want something that is a lovely melody, beautifully orchestrated, and makes me think. Not much, I know, but I'm fussy. And based on this, Bing! George wins.  (For me. You of course can prefer whatever music you like to listen to in your own home.)

Just because you got me curious, I did my own  "overt seriousness" hunt on ATMP:

"I'd Have You Anytime" - sweet love song
"My Sweet Lord" – happy religious
"Wah-Wah" – pissed-off but really bouncy - is this overtly serious? Can you dance seriously?
"Isn't It a Pity" - reflective - could count as "overt seriousness" I suppose

"What Is Life" – wildly happy
"If Not for You" - more quietly happy  
"Behind That Locked Door" – sweet & friendly
"Let It Down" – wild sex
"Run of the Mill" – regretful and beautiful - is this overtly serious? I wouldn't say so. Is anything thoughtful serious?

"Beware of Darkness" – absolutely qualifies as "overt seriousness". Gorgeous song.
"Apple Scruffs" – happy/silly
"Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)" – happy/beautiful
"Awaiting on You All" – happy religious
"All Things Must Pass" – reflective philosophical, certainly more "overt seriousness"

"I Dig Love" – pure lustful sex
"Art of Dying" – upbeat philosophical, could count as "overt seriousness"
"Isn't It a Pity" - duplicate "overt seriousness" as Side 1
"Hear Me Lord" – orgasmically gorgeous song. Religious, overtly serious, and transcendent.

Random extras:

It's Johnny's Birthday - happy/silly
"I Live for You" - One of those strange ambiguous songs that could be friendship/love/religion. Could be considered "overt seriousness"???


So of the 20 songs with lyrics (I'm omitting the jams, which all could fall into the silly/happy realm), we have:

Wildly happy - 9

Sweet or wistful - 4

OVERTLY SERIOUS IN TONE OR SUBJECT MATTER OMG KEVIN RUN!!!! - 7


Hey, Kevin's right! About 1/3 of the album appears to deal with serious subjects. If this isn't your cup of tea, I can see how this wouldn't be your cup of tea. (Yes, I wrote that deliberately.)

I hope you don't mind my teasing you about this. Everyone has their favorite music, and I happen to adore this album, as well as George's vision, courage, and massive talent that went into making it. Remember, this was revolutionary stuff at the time. NO ONE was doing popular religious stuff. NO ONE was writing about Eastern philosophy; it was weird and crazy and kooky and even (if you're a fundamentalist chowderhead) demonic. Yet 20 years later these "weird" philosophies were mainstreamed to the point where my doctor told me to take a TM course to lower my blood pressure--because science had proved that it worked. Now, that's societal change! And we owe that to George. *gives him a flower*



I agree it was unexpected. It was an exciting, new, fresh direction that knocked people for six. John and Paul had a lot of trouble getting their solo careers going, in part because they were trying to find their individual voices and people were listening for "old" Lennon-McCartney. George burst out with all this wild stuff that absolutely was fully developed in its own realm and definitely NOT Beatles. This was solo work.

I think this album was a product of its time. It was great then and remains great. The fact that it pushed the bounds of pop music still further (which is exactly why the Beatles are remembered as "great") absolutely ensures this album a place of honor for all time.


How could they? George was having to cramp his style to produce "Beatley" things that fit the Beatles' style (not his personal style) and were easy enough for John to play. I personally think that's why John quit playing on George's songs; he just couldn't keep up with the weird time signatures/chords etc. in his current condition.


I love them both, although I agree LITMW is more serious. It's gorgeous. I haven't been able to take it off the player yet from 2 weeks ago. I do love Phil Spector's production of "Try Some Buy Some" (I like the harp!), but George's songs clearly stand as great and moving songs on their own. I'm glad we have both of these excellent albums, so we can have the period feel of Phil's "wall of sound" along with the sparser production of LITMW, where the songs stand more on their own.


I absolutely agree. These are NOT Beatles songs. I wish the Beatles would have been open to the various guys running off and doing solo albums without breaking up, and then coming back together to do Beatles stuff. If wishes were feathers...