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freakchic9
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i own the anthology cds and they were playing the song help! at Blackpool Night Out. John sang the wrong line, and people didn't care. and i think they did some major work on trying to get the screaming out.




  
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The screaming was the most obvious manifestation of the hysteria the Beatles created. If you didn't have the screaming you wouldn't have had the hysteria, and no hysteria would have meant only a fraction of the attention the band attracted. They would be remembered as just another good band with good tunes, nothing more. The whole course of their history would change.
The screaming wasn't just an unfortunate consequence of Mania-era Beatles. It was The Beatles.


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Quoted from Kevin
The screaming was the most obvious manifestation of the hysteria the Beatles created. If you didn't have the screaming you wouldn't have had the hysteria, and no hysteria would have meant only a fraction of the attention the band attracted. They would be remembered as just another good band with good tunes, nothing more. The whole course of their history would change.
The screaming wasn't just an unfortunate consequence of Mania-era Beatles. It was The Beatles.


Very true. It's the major thing that distinguishes them from other groups of the time. Gerry And The Pacemakers, unlike The Beatles, first three songs went to No.1, but they never had a top 30 hit after '65. The Tremelos (signed by Decca instead of The Beatles) had hits all throughout the 60's but are hardly even considered as a footnote in that decade. These groups, for one reason or another, did not attract the attention from the fans that The Beatles did. Whether that's down to personality, musical ability, or sheer luck is anyone's guess.


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Screaming, huh?  Well, here are the Beatles at a Rolling Stones concert:



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Quoted from Hello Goodbye
Screaming, huh?  Well, here are the Beatles at a Rolling Stones concert:



Great pic!!

These guys, jeesh...


I love John,
I love Paul,
And George and Ringo,
I love them all!

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Great pic lol!

The screaming is insane.  It's like George said on the anthology doc, the Beatles were peoples excuse to go mad.  The years it was happening self expression was non existant and everyone was expected to act very straight laced.  So here was an outlet for people to lose there heads and get away with it...at the beatles expense.  Being able to scream like that back then would probably have felt pretty liberating.

I love the clip on VH1 Classic where they ask Bob Geldof what he remembers about Beatlemania and he says the smell of piss LOL!  All these girls would get so wound up when they appeared on stage that they would faint and immediatly piss themselves.
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That pic is classic, I love it!

The smell of piss... wowsers!



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LOL! Perfect pic, HG!

Nice historical reflection, Kevin and BM. I have to say that _I_ got interested in the Beatles because of Beatlemania. It was just so _weird_. So I kept looking into it and fell in love with the boys along the way.

I think the screaming is a candidate for one of Dawkins' "mind viruses". It's like the phenomenon when suddenly every teenage boy in the country was wearing his baseball cap backwards. There was no memo; they all just did it. Same thing with the screaming. You'd get the stories of these girls, and they'd say (I'm paraphrasing one I remember in particular): "It was my first concert and I wasn't sure what to do. And everyone around me was screaming so I just assumed that's what you did." I don't think they were crazy; I think it's part of that peer-pressure/example/fad thing. Here are the Beatles, you scream.

Yeah, fans were annoyed even at the time that they couldn't hear the band. But the screamers made the phenomenon, as Kevin said. I wonder if this was their equivalent of MySpace-- show up being a hysterical, screaming fan, and there you are, out in all the papers. You're a contender!


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i dont know if this is true, as my dad told me this, but he says that sometimes, on stage, they would just stop singing and mouth the words because they knew no one could hear it anyway. does anyone have any fact to back this up, or is my dad delusional? (which is probably true either way.....)

I believe John said they did this, but he might have been lying. At other times he said they really did sing, so you can choose. Still, I think it was discouraging to all of them except Paul (who I think was having a whale of a time regardless) that they couldn't be heard. They were quite enthusiastic after they played Atlanta with its new good sound system. If all the concerts could have had the good sound, I think they mightn't have tired of touring so quickly.


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"It was my first concert and I wasn't sure what to do. And everyone around me was screaming so I just assumed that's what you did." I don't think they were crazy; I think it's part of that peer-pressure/example/fad thing. Here are the Beatles, you scream.


It's akin to a mob mentality. One starts, everyone follows. It's how riots gain momentum. Remember those clips from old western movies? A barroom brawl starts off with two people shoving each other, and before you know it the whole bar is a war zone.


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Been in a couple of those bar fights myself....

Alcohol can be an evil drug  



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It's akin to a mob mentality.

I'm a complete idiot when it comes to mob mentality. I mean, it fascinates me, but I don't understand it in the least. I can be the one person standing there while everyone else is going insane, saying, "What's up, dudes?"

And you remember the proverb: "He who keeps his head while all others are losing theirs is inhibited."



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For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Well, I think -and this is just me personally- that it was a way for girls to release sexual tension. I mean, think about it, teenage girls were very repressed at that time and they were supposed to be coy and "hard to get". I think screaming at a Beatles concert was just a way of letting loose. You never saw young guys screaming at, oh, I dunno- Brigitte Bardot.


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You never saw young guys screaming at, oh, I dunno- Brigitte Bardot.



I think the guys in Paris 1963/4 kind of "freaked" the Beatles a little.
(more guys than girls plus the guys yelling "Beatles".)
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Heh! Good point.

So what was up with those French kids? Were they unisexual screamers, males releasing sexual tension, or was it just the "cool" fan thing to do?


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

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Quoted from mysterymagic
Great pic lol!

The screaming is insane.  It's like George said on the anthology doc, the Beatles were peoples excuse to go mad.  The years it was happening self expression was non existant and everyone was expected to act very straight laced.  So here was an outlet for people to lose there heads and get away with it...at the beatles expense.  Being able to scream like that back then would probably have felt pretty liberating.

I love the clip on VH1 Classic where they ask Bob Geldof what he remembers about Beatlemania and he says the smell of piss LOL!  All these girls would get so wound up when they appeared on stage that they would faint and immediatly piss themselves.


That's the way to remember The Beatles!




  
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