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Sandra
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Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?



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Lucky you Geoff.  There's only two used record stores here in town and the one I always go to..........the dude collects Beatles stuff too.  He's the one I mentioned earlier that has a near mint "peeled" cover of the Butcher cover.



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Quoted from Sandra
Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?


^^^^^^Tuff one Sandra............I got to think on this one.............




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Quoted from Sandra
Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?



Give her $100 and she'll be happy!


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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Quoted from Sandra
Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys


I wouldn't be thinking about ethics, I'd be thinking about retiring. My conscience just might kick in after I'd been living on my private island for six months or so.


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Poor old lady! I'm gonna go for the obvious Lennon lyric quote now:

Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Everyone you meet!


BTW, I'd probably do the same. Only I wouldn't want to sell it so really, she'd be getting a bargain. But then if I wasn't planning on selling it for profit, would I then be justified in my purchase? Again, hmmm...


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You could always give her $1 for it, then befriend her for the rest of her life. You know, fetch the groceries, clean the house, bed baths etc.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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Poor old lady!


I'd buy her a house. Not on my island, though.



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I would have to tell her... There is no way I could sleep at night knowing I cheated an old lady out of money like that. HOWEVER, if I saw it at a store and the people selling it didn't know what it was worth (I would have to assume that would be the case), i am sad to say but I think I would just not say anything   Yes I know I am a horrible person!!!!



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I would have to tell her... There is no way I could sleep at night knowing I cheated an old lady out of money like that. HOWEVER, if I saw it at a store and the people selling it didn't know what it was worth (I would have to assume that would be the case), i am sad to say but I think I would just not say anything   Yes I know I am a horrible person!!!!

^^^^^^^^No, Heather.  You are not horrible.  If the little old lady was really in need, and I do check around at places and garage sales just to see "what's up"............if she was selling her stuff to pay bills and expensive meds, which I know alot of the "seniors" have, I would call her aside, and tell her what this album is and it's possible worth.  Then I would have it appraised for her and if it's worth "thousands and thousands", I would ask her if she would like me to sell it for her on ebay.  And I would do that..............even if the album brought over 25 grand.  I have a soul and feelings for the elderly, especially the ones in need.  I am a good "Samaritan".  All I'd ask is a couple of hundred bucks from the sale.....kind of a "finder's fee", and that's it.  Now................on the other hand..............if an "idiot" had it at "bargain basement" near to nothing price in a collector's store/record store, whatever....and he/she didn't know WHAT they had, I'd pay the buck or two for it and laugh all the way out the door!!!!!  I did JUST THAT in Dallas, TX, back in the late 80's when I bought an ultra rare Pink Floyd set for a small "fraction" of the price.




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^^^^^^^^^^^^^On a footnote..............the Pink Floyd set was a 12 multi-colored vinyl set of "boots and outtakes" and was selling in Goldmine for $350+.............I got it for only $50!!!!  I think they marked it wrong, because my girlfriend with me was just about "dragging" me out the door so they wouldn't catch on................



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^^^^ Thanks! I don't feel as bad!  I do have a soft spot for the elderly also.  In this day and age, people just don't have the same amount of respect for elders anymore.  And the economy the way it is, it is very hard for many of them to make it and still live comfortable.  

But as for businesses, for some reason, I just don't feel as bad for them.  I don't know why.  Maybe because half the time most of them are ripping you off anyways (this goes more towards the bigger corporations, not the mom & pop shops).



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my girlfriend with me was just about "dragging" me out the door so they wouldn't catch on................


Exactly: I remember driving up Yonge Street with that copy of The Decca Tapes I mentioned above, still cackling about it when I got to my turnoff at St. Clair Avenue.

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Exactly Heather.  You and me are on the same "wave length".  I hate to see seniors get ripped off by all the drug companies and charge just too incredibly outragous prices on drugs.  My dad is ex-military and has the best insurance on the face of the earth for him and my mom.  100% hospital stays and surgeries paid for and the majority of his meds are free.  But some are not as lucky as they are.  Dad had open-heart surgery in November, '06, stayed in the hospital for 5 weeks.  His insurance paid for it all.
Now...............back to the original subject.......................
Store owners want to rip you off.  So I don't mind "ripping" them off..............



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Quoted from Geoff
I've always been more interested in the music itself rather than memorabilia; it's when a bootleg of new material comes out that I show up.  



yep, that sounds like me! i do own memorabillia, but it has always been given to me by people.
i'm just really hooked on Beatles Bootlegs and rare films. it is the music after all that started me
off off.  



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