Any of you out there own a "Butcher Cover" album of the Beatles' 1966 US release, "Yesterday and Today"????  Either original or the "peeled" version????
The guy at the local used record store has a "peeled" one that is in awesome condition.  I think it's worth a couple grand.  Back in the late 1980's, I went one weekend to Austin, Texas to the huge record show they hold down there twice a year.  I saw an original, "still SEALED" butcher cover and the dealer was wanting 25 THOUSAND dollars for it.  Amazing...............let's hear your thoughts..........

25 big ones!  

There's one available on ebay right now with a starting bid of of $15,000. Let me know how it goes.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-Ye.....QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You think I'm gonna BID on that???? I'll keep an eye on it on ebay.  I have more better things to do with my money..............I've spent a small fortune on the Beatles Monthlys magazines to have the complete set........

Yes as much as I love The Beatles, I just do not have that kind of money for something like that!  

As for that person selling that on ebay....If I had it, I would never sell it!  It said that her or his father had bought it from Sears in the 60's. I would keep it!!!

You got that right, Heather.  I would NEVER,EVER,EVER sell that album if I had it.  Even if I had an aunt back in "the day" who bought a couple of copies of it........NO FRICKIN' WAY I would sell it!!!!

Seriously. No matter how much I needed money either (unless someone's life depended on it).  Money isn't everything.  Something like that you keep and pass on.

Somehow it is sad that Beatles memorabilia has become the subject of large investments and big businessrather than being the subject of collecting fans.

maybe the person selling it isn't a beatles fan?
btw, i'd sell it.

I've always been more interested in the music itself rather than memorabilia; it's when a bootleg of new material comes out that I show up. As for Yesterday...and Today, I make do with a Millenium Remasters transfer and a "butcher cover" insert.

Quoted from Geoff

As for Yesterday...and Today, I make do with a Millenium Remasters transfer and a "butcher cover" insert.

I agree.  Though that being said, I've always secretly hoped that I'd go to a flea market/garage sale/used record store and get a butcher cover for five dollars!  Never hurts to dream!

Quoted from HeatherBoo

As for that person selling that on ebay....If I had it, I would never sell it!  It said that her or his father had bought it from Sears in the 60's. I would keep it!!!

I'm not into the collecting thing either. If you had an album worth $15,000 you'd have to keep it locked away, secure, and under the right temperature conditions. So what's the point? As an investment, yes. For any other reason it's a waste of time.

You know, on another thought, I don't think I'd want something like that in my collection.  Too valuable and what would you do with it????  You couldn't display it for fear it would get stolen.  I'll just stick to my collection of Beatle Book Monthlys.

Quoted from madman

I've always secretly hoped that I'd go to a flea market/garage sale/used record store and get a butcher cover for five dollars!  Never hurts to dream!

Absolutely; and in fact I found copies of things like Get Back, Sweet Apple Trax, and The Decca Tapes by rooting through the used LP sections of Toronto record stores. Of course I had to rummage past copy after copy of the red and blue albums and Abbey Road  to find them, though. I got a copy of The Decca Tapes for a dollar or so from a shop on Queen Street because the guy who ran it didn't know what it was and thought that his dozen or so used copies of the red and blue albums were all worth more!

Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?

Lucky you Geoff.  There's only two used record stores here in town and the one I always go to..........the dude collects Beatles stuff too.  He's the one I mentioned earlier that has a near mint "peeled" cover of the Butcher cover.

Quoted from Sandra

Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?

^^^^^^Tuff one Sandra............I got to think on this one.............

Quoted from Sandra

Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys: If you went to a garage sale and an old granny was selling The Butcher Cover for a pittance, would you buy it knowing that it's worth thousands of dollars and thereby cheat the old lady out of what is rightfully hers or would you tell her what she had in her possession so she could better decide what to do with it? Keep in mind that the old granny could be having this garage sale because she needs the money. Hmm, what to do?

Give her $100 and she'll be happy!

Quoted from Sandra

Okay, here's an ethics question for you guys

I wouldn't be thinking about ethics, I'd be thinking about retiring. My conscience just might kick in after I'd been living on my private island for six months or so.

Poor old lady! I'm gonna go for the obvious Lennon lyric quote now:

Instant karmas gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Everyone you meet!


BTW, I'd probably do the same. Only I wouldn't want to sell it so really, she'd be getting a bargain. But then if I wasn't planning on selling it for profit, would I then be justified in my purchase? Again, hmmm...

You could always give her $1 for it, then befriend her for the rest of her life. You know, fetch the groceries, clean the house, bed baths etc.

Quoted from Sandra

Poor old lady!

I'd buy her a house. Not on my island, though.

I would have to tell her... There is no way I could sleep at night knowing I cheated an old lady out of money like that. HOWEVER, if I saw it at a store and the people selling it didn't know what it was worth (I would have to assume that would be the case), i am sad to say but I think I would just not say anything   Yes I know I am a horrible person!!!!

Quoted from HeatherBoo

I would have to tell her... There is no way I could sleep at night knowing I cheated an old lady out of money like that. HOWEVER, if I saw it at a store and the people selling it didn't know what it was worth (I would have to assume that would be the case), i am sad to say but I think I would just not say anything   Yes I know I am a horrible person!!!!

^^^^^^^^No, Heather.  You are not horrible.  If the little old lady was really in need, and I do check around at places and garage sales just to see "what's up"............if she was selling her stuff to pay bills and expensive meds, which I know alot of the "seniors" have, I would call her aside, and tell her what this album is and it's possible worth.  Then I would have it appraised for her and if it's worth "thousands and thousands", I would ask her if she would like me to sell it for her on ebay.  And I would do that..............even if the album brought over 25 grand.  I have a soul and feelings for the elderly, especially the ones in need.  I am a good "Samaritan".  All I'd ask is a couple of hundred bucks from the sale.....kind of a "finder's fee", and that's it.  Now................on the other hand..............if an "idiot" had it at "bargain basement" near to nothing price in a collector's store/record store, whatever....and he/she didn't know WHAT they had, I'd pay the buck or two for it and laugh all the way out the door!!!!!  I did JUST THAT in Dallas, TX, back in the late 80's when I bought an ultra rare Pink Floyd set for a small "fraction" of the price.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^On a footnote..............the Pink Floyd set was a 12 multi-colored vinyl set of "boots and outtakes" and was selling in Goldmine for $350+.............I got it for only $50!!!!  I think they marked it wrong, because my girlfriend with me was just about "dragging" me out the door so they wouldn't catch on................

^^^^ Thanks! I don't feel as bad!  I do have a soft spot for the elderly also.  In this day and age, people just don't have the same amount of respect for elders anymore.  And the economy the way it is, it is very hard for many of them to make it and still live comfortable.  

But as for businesses, for some reason, I just don't feel as bad for them.  I don't know why.  Maybe because half the time most of them are ripping you off anyways (this goes more towards the bigger corporations, not the mom & pop shops).

Quoted from aspinall_lover

my girlfriend with me was just about "dragging" me out the door so they wouldn't catch on................

Exactly: I remember driving up Yonge Street with that copy of The Decca Tapes I mentioned above, still cackling about it when I got to my turnoff at St. Clair Avenue.

Exactly Heather.  You and me are on the same "wave length".  I hate to see seniors get ripped off by all the drug companies and charge just too incredibly outragous prices on drugs.  My dad is ex-military and has the best insurance on the face of the earth for him and my mom.  100% hospital stays and surgeries paid for and the majority of his meds are free.  But some are not as lucky as they are.  Dad had open-heart surgery in November, '06, stayed in the hospital for 5 weeks.  His insurance paid for it all.
Now...............back to the original subject.......................
Store owners want to rip you off.  So I don't mind "ripping" them off..............

Quoted from Geoff

I've always been more interested in the music itself rather than memorabilia; it's when a bootleg of new material comes out that I show up.  

yep, that sounds like me! i do own memorabillia, but it has always been given to me by people.
i'm just really hooked on Beatles Bootlegs and rare films. it is the music after all that started me
off off.  

I adore the music, too.  But the only memorabilla I collect is the Beatle Book Monthlys, the official fan mag of the Boys.  And I've got all of them, so I'm pretty darn happy.  But I like my rare Beatles videoes, too.

Quoted from Andy Smith

yep, that sounds like me! i do own memorabillia, but it has always been given to me by people.
i'm just really hooked on Beatles Bootlegs and rare films. it is the music after all that started me
off off.  

I should probably admit that I'm even more obsessive about bootlegs than other collectors are about memorabilia; when you find yourself thinking that there's some merit in replacing your 76 disc Day By Day set with the 83 disc A / B Road series because it's got an extra seven discs of Get Back material, it's probably time to fit yourself out with a straitjacket and throw yourself over the fence of the nearest asylum.  

Quoted from Geoff

I should probably admit that I'm even more obsessive about bootlegs than other collectors are about memorabilia; when you find yourself thinking that there's some merit in replacing your 76 disc Day By Day set with the 83 disc A / B Road series because it's got an extra seven discs of Get Back material, it's probably time to fit yourself out with a straitjacket and throw yourself over the fence of the nearest asylum.  

I've done the same thing (I don't have the 76 disc Day By Day set, but I do have the A/B Road set).  You'll get a one way ticket to the asylum only if you listen to all 83 discs at once!  

Quoted from Geoff

I should probably admit that I'm even more obsessive about bootlegs than other collectors are about memorabilia; when you find yourself thinking that there's some merit in replacing your 76 disc Day By Day set with the 83 disc A / B Road series because it's got an extra seven discs of Get Back material, it's probably time to fit yourself out with a straitjacket and throw yourself over the fence of the nearest asylum.  

Don't do that, I'll just open the gates for you from the inside! They put me away after I spent months searching for Rory Storm & The Hurricanes recordings!

Oh man............you two have got it bad!!!!

I've got a sticker on my guitar case with the butcher cover photo on, doesn't really count does it? But it's about as close as I'm gonna get!    

Quoted from BlueMeanie

They put me away after I spent months searching for Rory Storm & The Hurricanes recordings!

That one blew me away: I had no idea such a thing existed.  

Quoted from Geoff

That one blew me away: I had no idea such a thing existed.  

Check the bootleg forum:

http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/v-post/b-bootlegs_related/m-/post-1/

Quoted from BlueMeanie

They put me away after I spent months searching for Rory Storm & The Hurricanes recordings!

All you had to do was ask.