They're my fourth fave band. :)

they are a great band but somewhat over rated.......

I prefer their pre-dark Side Of the Moon stuff.

Pink Floyd is one of the greatest rock bands of all time, The Wall is creatively, musically & artisticaly their masterpiece.

>>>Pink Floyd is one of the greatest rock bands of all time, The Wall is creatively, musically & artisticaly their masterpiece. <<<

Sorry, that would be Dark Side of the Moon.  Everything after that was chasing that massive success.

They rule.  Not entirely but they're up there.

I think Wish You Were Here is their best album.

Meddle and Obscured by Clouds are two of my all-time favorite albums.

Both The Wall and Dark Side of the moon are great albums :)

And Wish You Were Here, The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, Meddle, and Animals. :P

I was talking with a young person (age 19) last week, and he is really into the Sixties. We discussed Floyd for a while, and found we agreed on a couple of things. Here is one oldie-youngster combo view, that might be interesting---

We both agreed that their Seventies stuff was very "trying-hard-to-be-a-significant-band". We both thought Moon and Wall were OK, but nothing classic or brilliant.

We also thought that overall Floyd were a little bit pretentious. Given that, we were amazed that each of us thought their best work was Piper At The Gates!

Thinking of you right now, Syd!

I think they're a pritty cool band. There in my top 5. The thing is that there diff. They used many things other bands diddn't. And that made them better in my opinoin.

They're my #1 band, I'm more than a little obssed by them. The Piper album (67 - recorded in the neighboor Abbey Road studio of Sgt. Pepper) and their stuff from the 70's is absolutely classic, some of them are masterpices. However, they suffer from the huge sucess of Dark Side and that's become the beginning of the end or them.

Quoted from Maria, posted May 3, 2004, 9:09am at here

I was talking with a young person (age 19) last week, and he is really into the Sixties. We discussed Floyd for a while, and found we agreed on a couple of things. Here is one oldie-youngster combo view, that might be interesting---

We both agreed that their Seventies stuff was very "trying-hard-to-be-a-significant-band". We both thought Moon and Wall were OK, but nothing classic or brilliant.

We also thought that overall Floyd were a little bit pretentious. Given that, we were amazed that each of us thought their best work was Piper At The Gates!

Thinking of you right now, Syd!

Ria brings up a valid point.i think the pre roger waters stuff was better.it is most certainly different.roger waters had a strong influence on david gilmore.he influence was so strong when he suggested they stopped dropping lsd before playing a concert,gilmore complied.
i think waters had a more orchestra type influence on flyod.their pre waters stuff was more cosmic and no as orchestrated.

Quoted from pc31, posted May 12, 2004, 1:49am at here

i think waters had a more orchestra type influence on flyod.their pre waters stuff was more cosmic and no as orchestrated.

Waters was who introduced the conceptual size in Floyd's albums. In Syd Barrett days (1966-67) the music was more whimsical, thanks to Syd's heavy LSD use (the others weren't so much in drugs, apart from keyboard player Rick Wright, who develops a cocaine habit in the late 70's). And the music become less free-form, but still experimental and jamming.

And the orchestral influence... well, Waters is to release a full opera this year (not a opera-rock). This means a lot.

They're my tirth or second fave band now. :)

Quoted from Maxwell, posted May 2, 2004, 11:56am at here

Meddle and Obscured by Clouds are two of my all-time favorite albums.

Same here.

Quoted from Maria, posted May 3, 2004, 9:09am at here

We also thought that overall Floyd were a little bit pretentious. Given that, we were amazed that each of us thought their best work was Piper At The Gates!

Thinking of you right now, Syd!

I can`t recall how often I have heard something similar: "pre-Moon-Floyd are the best" or "they were  s.h.i.t.  after Syd left" and so on. I can`t help it, but to me, Seventies Floyd piss all over "Piper at the Gates of Yawn".

Top 3 Fave Albums:
1. Dark Side Of The Moon
2. Wish You Were Here
3. Animals

They're a great band, slightly overrated but thats just because theyre so highly rated.  My personal favorite is Dark Side of the Moon, but The Wall, Wish You were Here and Animals are awesome too.  They're sound took me a while to get used to because its so different but its great in its own right.

1. Animals
2. Dark Side of the Moon
3. Wish You Were Here
4. Meddle
5. Atom Heart Mother
6. Piper at the Gates of Dawn
7. Relics
8. Ummagumma (Studio Disc)
9. A Saucerful of Secrets
10. More
11. Obscured by Clouds
....................................

12. The Wall
13. The Division Bell
14. The Final Cut
15. A Momentary Lapse of Reason

Amazing, amazing band, but they definitely died at The Wall.

Animals is no.1 for me.
then:
Meddle, Wish You Were Here and Dark Side Of The Moon.
I like The Wall sometimes. Bit overplayed from where I'm at.
Pre - Meddle I'm not sure. Obscured By Clouds, then it gets harder for me to dig.
Momentary... is a good album too. Always will be Animals. The track Dogs inparticular.

Rowdy, you don't like The Wall?

They were just great architects of sound. Spent a good part of my teenage years with them. Still re-visit from time to time.

Quoted from Herecomesyoursun, posted August 1, 2004, 4:08pm at here

Rowdy, you don't like The Wall?

Nope...it's just not creative enough musically for me....a lot of it is junk, and the good stuff just sounds a lot like the rock music of the time....it's still got five or six classic songs though, so it's better than anything they did after, but I'm not really a fan of it.

Dark side of the moon for me, Pink Floyd isnt on my top, But its somwhere in there. They are good.

The Wall is mess.

It takes a lot of patience to listen to Pink Floyd. Especially since you can't FF CD's! I love Shine on You Crazy Diamond, but it's freaking 17 minutes long!! And the insane laughter in some of their songs tends to be a bit creepy. Otherwise though they are a great band. Anyone know if Gilmour and Waters ever made up?

The good ol' days. Ooo, he was cute. Great lips.

Quoted from Zep_Fan, posted August 12, 2004, 1:13pm at here

The Wall is mess.

I dont think wall is the mess, probably my third favorite album by them how can you not like that album its very good.

The thing about pink floyd is that the real song doesnt start till like 2 or three minuites into it, they always hav introductions.

Fave Albums:

01. Piper at the Gates of Dawn
02. Obscured by Clouds
03. More
04. Dark Side of the Moon
05. Wish You Were Here
06. Ummagumma
07. Atom Heart Mother
08. Animals
09. Meddle
10. Saucerful of Secrets
11. The Final Cut

12. The Division Bell
13. The Wall
14. Momentary Lapse of Reason

I don't like 12-14.

whats their best song do you think?

the wall Pat 2, comfatbly numb, sheep, whish you were here

Time is my favorite Floyd song.

heres some easy floyd trivia. what does the voice at the beginning and end of the wall say?

High Hopes is my fave song.

Quoted from Herecomesyoursun, posted September 6, 2004, 3:45am at here

heres some easy floyd trivia. what does the voice at the beginning and end of the wall say?

The song or the album? All I know is the bit about not getting your pudding if you don't eat you meat!

the album.  AT the begining theres some mumbled words and again at the very end.  WHat do they say.

No one?  Theres a giant hint staring at you on this very page.

Huh???

The answer, word for word, is on this page.  Think about the concept of the Wall, the whole story.

On this page or do I have to go back some? I'm really trying!! This is hard!

on almost every page on this forum, but this specific page has it too.  Look left

Something about member??????

no, think about the story.  everything comes full circle...  this is turning into i spy

Ahhhhhh! I don't know! I'm looking left! There's nothing there! The story is about conformity no? I haven't seen that movie in years! Gender? What?

Gender female, gender male?

Look left right now.  down one inch.  Im giving up giving you real clues.  its now where's waldo.  easier for both of us.

It was an all boys school right? With the evil head master. Did you know the scene where Geldoff is sitting in the chair w/ the ciggarette burning down is directly based on Syd. Roger saw Syd do the exact same thing. interesting. A lot of later Floyd was inspired by Syd I think.

Welll thats wrong.  Are you giving up.  It doesnt have anything to do with the movie really.

And make sure you're looking left right when i tell you, thats important.

Your quote? I'm an idiot you know. Just tell me because I'm STUPID and I can't figure it out!!!!!

What's wrong? The boys school? I don't know!!!

DING DING DING DING.  Sry that was a pointless game.

Yes, at the beginning of the album, they mumble "We came in" and at the end its "Isnt this where".  The idea is that the album is playing ina loop, full circle like his life.  everything comes back to thebeginning.

Oohhhh! Boy those boys sure are clever aren't they. Now I have to go get the stupid album because I'm curious. Listening to Pink Floyd requires more than half a brain I guess!!

no but you must be comfortably numb, if you know what i mean ;)

Heh, not according to those guys on the PF forum. They get insulted if you imply as much. I myself agree. It's the only way to fully appreciate them. I certainly don't have the patience otherwise.

Oops I havent been back there.  Once you insult the Beatles theres a big blot on your futur with me, so me and that forum may never take off.

Heh, there's a whole thread about it. They're more funny than anything else those PF fans! Anyone who can accuse the Beatles of being overrated has more than a few things to learn about music!

i think the dark side of the moon shirt might be the most common in rock.

You went from Floyd to the Stones there didn't you? I love that song though. I've never seen a Dark Side shirt I don't think. I remember a lot of Van Halen shirts. The VH symbol was so popular. Oh and Eddie from Iron Maiden. I still have that one! Do teenagers ever where concert t-shirts anymore? I never see it.

Stones???  I meant Dark Side of the Moon, the album cover shirt design.


ANyway, these days the most popular one is Dave Matthews concert tees.  But other than that one the only band shirts you see around are classic rock.

Dude, I was talking about your quote!! I know Darks Side is Floyd!! Most of the album was inspired by my avatar!! ;D

Wait a minute! Did you say Dave Matthews??? Uh, you'll have to excuse me while I (barf2)(barf4)(barf1)  Too late.

Haven't listened to much Pink Floyd, so I can't vote  :(

Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 10, 2004, 2:34am at here

Dude, I was talking about your quote!! I know Darks Side is Floyd!! Most of the album was inspired by my avatar!! ;D

drrrrrrr....oops.


Anyway I'm not the one who likes Dave, I think he's kinda whiny.  But thats pretty much the only music shirt around these days.

I had a feeling your musical tastes were a bit better than that! Dave Matthews is like Hootie all over again. Bland, yuppie music. No offense to Dave or Hootie fans intended.

Who said that pink floyd sucks?

Somebody who doesn't get it.

yes very true

Ooh, another suck vote from She Loves You!!  :p  How many songs by Floyd do you guys actually know? That's what I'm curious about.

Ha! There's two Pink Floyd threads! I mean named "Pink Floyd" That's great! Actually there are a lot of Pink Floyd threads around here! Pretty cool. Beatles fans are very open minded musically!

yeah i noticed that too :-) I thought i vote for this already..

LOL

Pink floyd is better then led zeppelin

Quoted from number14

Pink floyd is better then led zeppelin

haha, thats funny

it is?

Quoted from number14

it is?

it was a joke really. imo, i think led zeppelin was probably the second greatest thing that happened to rock and roll and i jus love their music.

i love floyd too:)

Howard Stern was playing the new Robert Plant on the radio today and no one could guess it was him. He did sound a little different, but not THAT different. Anyone hear his new song? His publicist is putting out the tag line: "No it's not a unreleased track off of Physical Graffiti!" Umm, not quite.

Quoted from Maccalvr

Howard Stern was playing the new Robert Plant on the radio today and no one could guess it was him. He did sound a little different, but not THAT different. Anyone hear his new song? His publicist is putting out the tag line: "No it's not a unreleased track off of Physical Graffiti!" Umm, not quite.

my friend was talknig botu his new album. he's also really into stern's show. personally, i dun care too much for stern and what he has to say.

He's okay. I just listen to him for like 30 minutes while I'm getting ready in the morning. I turn him off when he gets too annoying. He's a HUGE Beatles fan BTW. I still can't believe Paul did his show!

I was just watching Pink Floyd-Making of Dark Side Of The Moon last night

David Gilmour's birthday is today! Wonder what he's doing. On his 50'th birthday he invited Syd and hired a Pink Floyd tribute band. Today he'll be 59. Maybe on his 60th Syd will come! Or an even bigger miracle: Roger!

David collage! ;D


                               (birthday)(birthday)(birthday)  

Cool Pics sandra!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the extremely underrated guitarist- David Gilmour

Comfortably Numb solo beats Stairway, Crossroads, Little Wing, Voodoo Child, One etc.

Pink Floyd is my second favorite band next to the Beatles. I saw them in concert during their Division Bell tour.  8)

Quoted from Paulsluv

Pink Floyd is my second favorite band next to the Beatles. I saw them in concert during their Division Bell tour.  8)

same here..I really love The Who though, thier my 3rd favorite band, well tomorow they might be my 2nd favorite band, or 1st, or they may be my least favorite band...I just love them all

COOL SITE!!!!


http://madcaplaughs.narod.ru/video.htm


You can download videos, interviews, etc. Very cool.

Quoted from TurnMeOnDeadman

Cool Pics sandra!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the extremely underrated guitarist- David Gilmour

Comfortably Numb solo beats Stairway, Crossroads, Little Wing, Voodoo Child, One etc.

underrated yes, but those are some of the best solos ever and i don't think the solo in Comfortably Numb necessarily beats them all.

Quoted from lennonlemon

underrated yes, but those are some of the best solos ever and i don't think the solo in Comfortably Numb necessarily beats them all.

it isn't the best for sure, but it's one of the best...its a slow solo, but ti sounds really great...I really enjoy playing it...

Quoted from Frightwolf

Haven't listened to much Pink Floyd, so I can't vote  :(

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THat's a sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(afraid1)(bigeyes1)(afraid5)

Quoted from lennon-legend

it isn't the best for sure, but it's one of the best...its a slow solo, but ti sounds really great...I really enjoy playing it...

no doubt it's great

[quote=TurnMeOnDeadman



Comfortably Numb solo beats Stairway, Crossroads, Little Wing, Voodoo Child, One etc.[/quote]

I agree with you

I don't know how you can compare stairway solo to comfortably numb solo... they have a different feeling... stairway is like a sweet solo, it's played fast and has a lot of feeling, CN is slower, has this great emotion...they're both great, but comparing one to another...

stairway to heaven is a better song, but i like glimours stlye more then page's

Quoted from number14

stairway to heaven is a better song, but i like glimours stlye more then page's

page is very sloppy, but still awesome

Quoted from number14

stairway to heaven is a better song, but i like glimours stlye more then page's

I disagree and Agree,,,, Im a bigger Floyd fan, so I like Numb betterm and I agree that Gilmours style is better

How about the SHINE ON solo? Or Time, Mother, Dogs, Fat Old Sun, Echoes, Money...

Quoted from Maccalvr

How about the SHINE ON solo? Or Time, Mother, Dogs, Fat Old Sun, Echoes, Money...

Yeah those are amazing too,,,I just said Comfortably Numb cause Its my favorite Gilmour solo....Pages solos arent powerful, Stairway solo is awesome no doubt, but I agree with Lennon-legend...they dont compare, Gilmours better

I don't think Page's solo's have as much emotion as Dave's bendy, soaring solos. He's not a fast guitarist, so he uses what his strengths are. Which is creating heart wrenching guitar parts that take you to another place.

Quoted from Maccalvr

I don't think Page's solo's have as much emotion as Dave's bendy, soaring solos. He's not a fast guitarist, so he uses what his strengths are. Which is creating heart wrenching guitar parts that take you to another place.

I agree 100%..Well said

So WHY isn't he in your sig?? Huh? Huh? ;D

Quoted from Maccalvr

So WHY isn't he in your sig?? Huh? Huh? ;D

Cause I chose 5 guitarists that "Lennon-Legend" didnt have, and he had Gilmour, but now he doesnt have those 5 anymore, If i knew how to make Sigs I'd put Gilmour

Ah. Still, Gilmour's worth repeating! I love the pic of Hendrix though.

Quoted from Maccalvr

Ah. Still, Gilmour's worth repeating! I love the pic of Hendrix though.

and pete

Yeah, Pete looks cute.

Gilmour ain't better than Page IMO, they could be equally talented but not better... just a matter of preference... but CN solo is my favorite Gilmour/The Floyd solo

Quoted from TurnMeOnDeadman

Cause I chose 5 guitarists that "Lennon-Legend" didnt have, and he had Gilmour, but now he doesnt have those 5 anymore, If i knew how to make Sigs I'd put Gilmour

i dont have five but hes still in there..he's still one of the greats...he's not that clear but he's still there!

David glimour isnt known as one of trhe greatest guitarists ever but Page is, and it seems to me that you guys say glimour is better then page

Though I agree with you 100 percent

Quoted from number14

David glimour isnt known as one of trhe greatest guitarists ever

Yes, he is.

Nah. He's very underrated. Sometimes there'd be top 50 greatest guitarists list and he'd be no. 40 or something.

Quoted from Zep_Fan

Yes, he is.

Not by those people who make up those polls. He's always WAY down on the list. Never in the top 10 or even 20.

I know!! he got F'Kin number 80 or sumthing on Rolling Stone!! he deserves waay more than that!! they gave F'In  Cobain number 12, and Keith was too high too!

(i hate rolling stone)

Number 80  ::) ::) How annoying. What the hell did Cobain ever do that was THAT much better than DAVE!!!! I don't get it. What the f are they basing it on???

Quoted from Maccalvr

Number 80  ::) ::) How annoying. What the hell did Cobain ever do that was THAT much better than DAVE!!!! I don't get it. What the f are they basing it on???

probably some people casting votes or something like that...

There's this funny thread on the Pink Floyd forum about the correct way to pronounce Ummagumma. So I was wondering how you all said it. Long U like oooma gooma or short U like um a gum a.

ooooooooomagoooooma

You sound like a ghost. Anyway, that's the way Dave pronounces it. Yet Roger says it the other way. So confusing. I like the ooomagoooma way myself although I said it the other way till I heard Dave. What the hell does it mean anyway? I think I read somewhere it was hippy slang for sex. But I don't know it that's right.

i dunno if that works as slang.  can you picture al green singing "lets ummagumma baby"

We're talking about English people here. So who knows. Would an American ever say Jolly good or galloping knob-rot?

Well i will now!  What a cool phrase!  Galloping knob-rots, he left his trousers in the loo!

OMG, that's funny.

Galloping knob-rot=Severe, uncontrolled venereal disease!!

ha i didnt know that.  but i guess that is the sort of thing you'd notice if someone left their pants in the bathroom eh?

OomaGooma

Heh, Right! Anyway, I'm guessing knob is...well you know. But I could be wrong. Who knows!

You know what's wierd, and I don't know if anyone else had this experience, but I never knew what the guys in Floyd looked like growing up. They were kind of mysterious. Which kinda fed into their whole image I guess. Anyway, I though that was kind of typical of them. Not really being in the public eye. Which is why they could get away using a surrogate band at the beginning of the Wall shows I guess. The internet has changed everything though, cuz now I could bring up a million pics of them in a matter of minutes.

ya the internet does a lot

dark side of the moon by pink floyd is one of the greatest albums of all time, every song has something special about them, very unique and delicate,
Pink FLoyd IS amazing

Echoes is one of my favorite songs ever

I didn't vote THEY RULE A LOT because I haven't heard much from them, but Dark Side Of The Moon fits on my top 5 best album of all time list, or even #1, so great.

^You ain't heard nothin' yet. ;)

On the radio last night, I heard Dave Gilmour describe playing with Roger Waters again as 'Sleeping with the ex-wife'...He then quickly added...'I did'nt just say that' or words to the effect. Anyone else catch it?

^Only Bobber? lol

Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle

^Only Bobber? lol

Oh yes, sorry, posted it elsewhere on the board. I never check out this Floyd-section. But yes, I heard him mention that. Well, sex with your ex is the best, isn't it? At least once.

^LOL.....It's an experience I've been through. hehehehe! ;)

Just on the radio:

Pink Floyd's record sales went up by 1300% (!) after their appearance at Live 8.

And they're gonna donate all that money to charity.

Wow. Much respect.

Quoted from Biscuit_Power

Just on the radio:

Pink Floyd's record sales went up by 1300% (!) after their appearance at Live 8.

And they're gonna donate all that money to charity.

Wow. Much respect.

:o :o :o :o

Quoted from Biscuit_Power

Just on the radio:

Pink Floyd's record sales went up by 1300% (!) after their appearance at Live 8.

And they're gonna donate all that money to charity.

Wow. Much respect.

Well, maybe they sold just very very little before the Live 8 concert. But it's a good thing to donate the money to charity.

Pink Floyd? Who's album The Wall is the third best selling album of all time? I think their sales were probably pretty impressive before Live 8 as well. I'm just guessing though.

Quoted from Bobber

Well, maybe they sold just very very little before the Live 8 concert. But it's a good thing to donate the money to charity.

Yeah... Think of all the millions of dollars Queen must've made from record sales after Live Aid... For as far as I know, they never donated a dime of that to charity...

Robbie Williams tried to do Queens We Will Rock You this time but it didnt rweally work.  I find 1300% hard to believe, I mean The Wall and Dark Side sell probably 500,000 annually already

Quoted from Herecomesyoursun

I mean The Wall and Dark Side sell probably 500,000 annually already

Even the last couple of years? No way.

Hasn't DSOTM got the record for having the longest album run in the charts EVER?

It isn't for sales overall. It's for their 'Best of' CD Echoes.

Those sales volumes for Live 8 acts in full:

1 Pink Floyd - Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd - 1343%
2 The Who - Then and Now - 863%
3 Annie Lennox - Eurythmics Greatest Hits - 500%
4 Dido - Life For Rent - 412%
5 Razorlight - Up All Night - 335%
6 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits - 320%
7 Joss Stone - Mind, Body and Soul - 309%
8 Sting - The Very Best of Sting & The Police - 300%
9 Travis - Singles - 268%
10 Madonna - Immaculate Collection - 200%

Source: HMV µ

Live 8: Pink Floyd Guitarist To Donate Profit
Category: SOFTPEDIA NEWS :: Entertainment :: Music

Pink Floyd's guitarist David Gilmour declared today that he will donate to the charity effort for Africa the revenue from its album's sales

Pink Floyd's guitarist David Gilmour declared today that he will donate to the charity effort for Africa the revenue from his album's sales, which had gone up after the Live 8 concert. Gilmour said: "This is money that should be used to save lives."

HMV said sales of Pink Floyd's album "Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd" had gone up by 1,343 percent since the weekend.

"Though the main objective has been to raise consciousness and put pressure on the G-8 leaders, I will not profit from the concert," Gilmour said in a statement Monday.

"If other artists feel like donating their extra royalties to charity, perhaps then the record companies could be persuaded to make a similar gesture and that would be a bonus," he said. "This is money that should be used to save lives."

Sir Paul McCartney and Annie Lennox have also reportedly pledged to share their profits. A spokesman for Lennox said: "Annie feels that it is appropriate to give something back."

The Who also decided to give the profits to charity. "The band are impressed with what Pink Floyd are doing, and should there be any significant extra royalties coming in they would look at doing the same."

The sales of The Who's album Ultimate Collection have risen 51 per cent over the past week, and Lennox's album sales have shot up 500 per cent.

I thought watching Robbie Williams was like watching a cheap Vegas act. I wasn't too thrilled. But he was into it I guess. I liked the way Billie Joe worked the crowd in Berlin. But again, a little too much schmaltz for a rock star.

Quoted from Maccalvr

I thought watching Robbie Williams was like watching a cheap Vegas act. I wasn't too thrilled. But he was into it I guess. I liked the way Billie Joe worked the crowd in Berlin. But again, a little too much schmaltz for a rock star.

Robbie does veer dangerously close to cabaret sometimes. But I can't think of many other solo male rock performers of his generation so he seems to have his own little niche. I think he's an essentially English thing that doesn't translate to well.

Quoted from Maccalvr

It isn't for sales overall. It's for their 'Best of' CD Echoes.

Those sales volumes for Live 8 acts in full:

1 Pink Floyd - Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd - 1343%
2 The Who - Then and Now - 863%
3 Annie Lennox - Eurythmics Greatest Hits - 500%
4 Dido - Life For Rent - 412%
5 Razorlight - Up All Night - 335%
6 Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits - 320%
7 Joss Stone - Mind, Body and Soul - 309%
8 Sting - The Very Best of Sting & The Police - 300%
9 Travis - Singles - 268%
10 Madonna - Immaculate Collection - 200%

Paul's sales didn't go up very much, obviously.

Quoted from kevin_b

Robbie does veer dangerously close to cabaret sometimes. But I can't think of many other solo male rock performers of his generation so he seems to have his own little niche. I think he's an essentially English thing that doesn't translate to well.

No, he translates fine. I just didn't care for his voice very much. I never minded Freddie Mercury or Bowie camping it up, but I enjoyed their music as well. I did like the one song Robbie did towards the end, but again, his voice doesn't do anything for me.

Quoted from Bobber

Paul's sales didn't go up very much, obviously.

Paul is always out there. You don't have a chance to just discover him or forget that you liked him. That's who these people are who are buying the cd's. Most of us already own this stuff so we didn't add to the jump.

Quoted from Maccalvr

No, he translates fine.

I think he doesn't. Cause Robbie Williams is HUGE in Europe. I think that in the Netherlands you'll find more people that do like him than people that don't.

I like him

*i bought Millenium*  :B

I love the Live At The Albert DVD though.

Maybe explain to me what's not translating? Maybe he hasn't had big enough exposure over here. It's a big place with lots of bands trying to catch on. The translating thing I'm not getting.

I think the British/European public have a 'history' with Robbie. Especially from his days in Take That. He was the 'cheeky, young, loveable rogue' kinda thing who got kicked out/left.

Without that connection from his past, I'm afraid that he's a bit of a cocky upstart. lol
I think that's part of the reason he ain't cutting it in the US/Canada. I'm not saying that he's not talented. He is a great entertainer. We grew up with him if you know what I mean.

Btw, he should have stuck with Guy Chambers, his latest material is by far his worst yet. Sorry to all Robbie fans if I've caused offence.

There's a lot of self-deprecating (spelling) humour in his act that Americans just might not get. He seems to be more often than not mocking the whole rock star thing.

Thanks for the info. Just wondering what it was I didn't know. :)

Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle

He is a great entertainer.

Yes he is. I'm not a fan of his music, but I still enjoy seeing his live performances on TV. He's just one of those people that were born to be on a stage.

Yeah whyd he split with his songwriter, that guy was good.  

Quoted from Herecomesyoursun

Yeah whyd he split with his songwriter, that guy was good.  

Clash of ego's I believe. Guy Chambers had mediocre success with a band called World Party about 8/10 yrs back. Kind of a one hit, one album wonder.

Then they got paired up by their label and now Guy Chambers has made an absolute mint. Robbie decided he could write the tunes himself......Shame really. Chambers brought music credibility to Robbie in my eyes. His popularity certainly has waned a little over here since he tried to launch himself in America.

He was on one hell of a rise before that though.

i like pink floyd  alot they are a good band

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so you dont like pink floyd anymore, crazy diamond?

Seeing that he named himself after a floyd song, I doubt it.

ya, I guess

I don't know, he might, his name before was Zepfan, but he seems to hate Zep now too.

Greatest musical force of all time.

Corporal Clegg is a great tune that is insane

Very disturbing satirical Waters' war song but its great.

what do you mean disturbing?

Well, the ideas Roger expresses about war are very poignant, mainly because of how depressing they are. The effects on Clegg's mind are, to me at least, an illustration of how war can change a man.

OH GOD I'M GONNA PUKE! Some actually said they suck? Did anyone post anything or were they too ashamed?

i cant see how pink floyd sucks

Quoted from number14

i cant see how pink floyd sucks

me either, they are too musicaly creative and brilliant.....im not being biased, but its like saying Mozart sucks

I understand it to be that the pollster is saying that Britney & 50 Cent suck. Have another look. ;)

1. Dark Side Of The Moon
2. Wish You Were Here
3. Piper at the gates of dawn
4. The Wall
5. Animals
6. The Final Cut
7. Meddle
8. A Saucerfull Of Secrets
9. Atom Heart Mother
10.Obscured By CLouds

those r my top ten floyd albums in the present time

does the album More by pink floyd worth the buy??
I Havent heard anything about it

Definintley! Dave really comes into his own for the first time, here! Its fantastic, full of these great riffs from him where he just totally cuts loose! Also, Roger's writing takes a step up, and as you go down the line of songs you can even begin to see Dark Side take shape. Its really the first album by The Floyd most people know!

More is one of their best albums.

yeah, its thier most underrated album besides atom heart mother

1. Animals
2. Piper at the Gates of Dawn
3. More
4. Atom Heart Mother
5. Dark Side of the Moon

Quoted from andersonCouncill

Definintley! Dave really comes into his own for the first time, here! Its fantastic, full of these great riffs from him where he just totally cuts loose! Also, Roger's writing takes a step up, and as you go down the line of songs you can even begin to see Dark Side take shape. Its really the first album by The Floyd most people know!

is it better then obscured by clouds?

Yes. Much better.

1.Dark Side
2.Animals
3.Wish You Were Here
4.Atom Heart Mother
5.Meddle
6.Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
7.More
8.The Wall
9.A Saucerful Of Secrets
10.Obscured By Clouds

Quoted from number14

is it better then obscured by clouds?

Hard to say. I would have to say yes, as its simply more moody and more rockin'. Obscured By Clouds, is in many ways an early version of what became Dark Side Of The Moon. I guess it depends on how you like your Floyd. If you want the more well known post-Dark Side Floyd then obviously, OBC would be better, as it was made well they were writing Dark Side Of The Moon on the road, but if you want something a little bit weirder and more expierimental go with More.

For everyone who has A Saucerful Of Secrets, how do you rate each track?

1.Let There Be More Light
2.Corporal Clegg
3.Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
4.Jugband Blues
5.A Saucerful Of Secrets
6.See Saw
7.Remember A Day

Each track (except Syd;s own Jugband Blues) gives me the idea that they were all sitting around and saying "Okay, Syd was popular. We need to try and write just like Syd!" but its still great. Corporal Clegg is probably Waters' best anti-war song and the line in Let There Be More Light about "Lucy in the sky" is great.

favorite to least favorite on saucerfull

1. Corporal Clegg
2. Remember a day
3. Let there be more light
4.set the controls for the heart of the sun
5. jugband blues
6. a saucerfull
7. see saw

I enjoy Piper a lot but its a bit too sugary and pop-ish for Floyd. Ofcourse, it wasn't the same band on Piper, it was more like "The Syd Barrett Band". Its great, very jazzy on every track well at the same time very phychedelic. Its kind of what one would imagine a cylidoscope might sound like.

I Just Saw Echoes Live at pompeii and let me tell ya Nick Mason Can Play his Drums!!!!
It is awesome

I agree.  In all these "greatest rock drummer" polls, Nick Mason never gets as much credit as he deserves.  Neither Ringo, for that matter.  

Piper is different.  But I love it.  Syd was scary brilliant.

I agree. The great thing about him is that he has restraint. Most drummers think if they just slam as hard and fast as they can they are doing it right. Nick Mason carefully plans out each hit he makes so that it will contribute to the other three as a unit whereas most drummers tend to seem to want to pound and pound to distract from the others.

Quoted from number14

I Just Saw Echoes Live at pompeii and let me tell ya Nick Mason Can Play his Drums!!!!
It is awesome

hell yeah!! pompeii is amazing

Echoes is the best.....One Of These Days!!

I Love it, one of the best Live Movies

I knew it!!!!!!!! Just read that Floyd are reforming with Roger Waters and are expected to earn a staggering 130 million UK pounds!!!!!

I am definitely going to that gig when it comes my way!!!!!!

Superb!!!!!!!

Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle

I knew it!!!!!!!! Just read that Floyd are reforming with Roger Waters and are expected to earn a staggering 130 million UK pounds!!!!!

I am definitely going to that gig when it comes my way!!!!!!

Superb!!!!!!!

oh yeah?? for real??
I read in some magazine that after live 8 they were offered 150 million pounds to do a US tour, and gilmour replied by saying something that they were offered money before and that they won't reform for any money and they played at live 8 because it was for a good cause thats all.... dunno if its reliable though... I hope your story is the real one :)

but i must agree it would be great if they would do a north american tour...

Quoted from lennon-legend

oh yeah?? for real??
I read in some magazine that after live 8 they were offered 150 million pounds to do a US tour, and gilmour replied by saying something that they were offered money before and that they won't reform for any money and they played at live 8 because it was for a good cause thats all.... dunno if its reliable though... I hope your story is the real one :)

but i must agree it would be great if they would do a north american tour...

Not to be patronizing, but if this were true I would know about.

i think they rule quite a lot..i bought animals album yesterday and that kicks as!

I'm not much of a Floyd fan - especially NOT DSOTM, but heard Meddle for the first time the other night and was quite impressed and drunk!

Just wondered what the Floyd fan's opinion on this album is. I'd never even hear of it!

"Meddle" is a great album. Haven't listened to it in a long time. Just one that goes through the cracks, but next to 'The Wall' and 'Animals' its probably my 3rd favorite album by the Floydsters. Also, I'll bet anything they reunite for a tour. Its bound to happen.

Oh it's happened JF. ;)

Meddle is a great album. Love Echoes the most I think...closely followed by SanTropez.

Whew I knew it!! Great news!!

Just watched a string quartet tribute to the Floyds and I cried buckets..

I miss "Meddle"..

Time to visit the turntable land!

No doubt. I've got a beautiful virgin vinyl Japanese import of that album that was stolen for me and came with a booklet and sounded excellent. I only listened to it once because I didn't want to risk scratching it.

Quoted from juniorsfarm

. Also, I'll bet anything they reunite for a tour. Its bound to happen.

Here's Dave's reaction when asked if he'll tour with Roger again:

Too bad he doesn't look like that anymore.


Now I only pray that I am WAY wrong. (jesus)


BTW, anyone else notice anything funny about Dave's shirt here?

^ looks like dark side of the moon, I wonder if the shirt company  did that on purpose

i love pink floyd almost as much as i love the beatles, ill admit it

PATGOD has been getting a lot of plays recently. Perhas even my favorite Floyd album at the moment.

Is that a glove smoking a missle?

Quoted from lennonlemon

PATGOD has been getting a lot of plays recently. Perhas even my favorite Floyd album at the moment.

Is that a glove smoking a missle?

looks like a joint...speaking of which I've got to go smoke ;D

It looks like Mickey Mouse just lit up a big one.

[quote=lennonlemon]PATGOD has been getting a lot of plays recently. Perhas even my favorite Floyd album at the moment.

quote]

I love that album, it should definetley have more attention, syd barrets lyrics are just awesome.

Quoted from number14

[quote=lennonlemon]PATGOD has been getting a lot of plays recently. Perhas even my favorite Floyd album at the moment.

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I love that album, it should definetley have more attention, syd barrets lyrics are just awesome.

Although he has the distinct dishonor of getting one of the few Pink Floyd song's credits I actually dislike: The Gnome. Although, he's vocals on it are fantastimogorgerrificous!!

Quoted from Maccalvr

It looks like Mickey Mouse just lit up a big one.

I wanna get that shirt and wear it to school next time they have "Red Ribbon Week"! This year I wore a shirt with a hippie who has his arms outspread that says "Put Down The Drugs And Come Get A Hug."

All my teachers got pissed and that probably didn't help that they all think I'm a burnout 'cause of my musical taste.  ;D :P :D

(jesus) Rick Wright looks like Jesus at Live At Pompeii, doesn't he?

^Yeah, and David Gilmour looks like God. Or A God anyway.

What? Your saying David Gilmour really isn't god? I'm crushed. I thought those bastards at Jehovah's Witnesses were just saying that to mess with me! :'(

We all know Clapton is God. (god) Gilmour being one of his disciples.(angel5)

Quoted from Maccalvr

We all know Clapton is God. (god) Gilmour being one of his disciples.(angel5)

Speaking of guitarists being gods, on another forum I implied that George was god, Homer Simpson was Mary Magadelen, and that I was their love child.

Yes, Clapton is my all-time favorite guitarist. Those Jehovah's Witnesses will burn for their choses! BWAHAHAHA!

Speaking of Homer...I think if Homer Simpson and Vanilla Ice had a child, it would be Eminem. My name is d'oh! My name is d'oh! ;D

Quoted from Maccalvr

Speaking of Homer...I think if Homer Simpson and Vanilla Ice had a child, it would be Eminem. ;D

Now you just shut it right there!

Sorry, but I despise Ice. Have the desire to take him to the ghetto just so he can get the mess beat outta him.

Speaking of Eminem, I'm downloading a mash-up he did with Echoes, which gets us back on topic to Floyd.

Well at least he has good taste in music if he's choosing Floyd. But i really wish people would leave Pink Floyd's music alone already. I've yet to hear one cover or whatever do justice to the original. What's the point.

Quoted from Maccalvr

Well at least he has good taste in music if he's choosing Floyd. But i really wish people would leave Pink Floyd's music alone already. I've yet to hear one cover or whatever do justice to the original. What's the point.

Marshall knows his Floyd. Even went so far as to dedicate Mosh to Roger at Live8 and reference The Wall in the D12 song Revalation:


I don't wanna go to school
I don't need no education
I don't wanna be like you
I don't wanna save the nation
Daddy, I just wanna live my life
Everyday a celebration
Someday, I'ma leave this world
I wait for the revelation

Whatever You Say I Am and Whats Goin' On both strike me as very Watersian tracks.

Saw a documentary on Floyd in the 90's, which revealed that they were trained as architects. A musicologist went on to say that this influenced their music because they 'knew what to do with a line in a space', which explains how in the first few minutes of Wish You Were Here, hardly anything happens musically, but it still keeps the attention. Interesting stuff.

They needed a lot of 'space' for their music so that description suits quite well.  ;D

I suppose Pink Floyd became the architects of music. I like to think that they 'took over' from The Beatles, when the Fab Four dropped the musical complexity of 1967. Also, though some might deny this, I really think Floyd were ultimately founded on The Beatles anyway.

I wouldn't go so far... they were contemporaries

Yes, I'm still not entirely sure myself. I suppose it would have to be 'from the horses mouth', i.e. Waters and co. saying that they were definitely inspired by Beatles. But, I reckon no other band sounded as similar to The Beatles, at points, as Pink Floyd.

Quoted from GreenApple

I suppose Pink Floyd became the architects of music. I like to think that they 'took over' from The Beatles, when the Fab Four dropped the musical complexity of 1967. Also, though some might deny this, I really think Floyd were ultimately founded on The Beatles anyway.

I don't think anyone can deny that. Most trained Floydians know of Barrett's obsession with Lennon and being like Lennon.

Also, I have come up with an interpretation of the cover of Sgt. Pepper's that it is a possible metaphor for floyd by The Beatles themselves. Crazy, I know, but look at The Beatles, dark, sollen, much more serious and somber than The Beatles, standing next to Sgt. Pepper's band, a chippy group all in phychedelic colors. They are here, at the grave, where the old Beatles of the early-mid 60s funeral is taking place. The New Beatles (Sgt. Pepper's) stand in the center with a small army of followers (the fans they have garnered, also attending the funeral), and to the side, with know fans behind them, the "Beatles" (Pink Floyd). I know its crazy, but its a cool interpretation, isn't it?

Quoted from Maccalvr

Well at least he has good taste in music if he's choosing Floyd. But i really wish people would leave Pink Floyd's music alone already. I've yet to hear one cover or whatever do justice to the original. What's the point.

Check out the following:

Green Day--Wish You Were Here (bootleg)
Nirvana--Welcome To The Machine (bootleg)
Fuel--Comfortably Numb (bootleg)
Kitty--Run Like Hell (bootleg)
Radiohead--Wish You Were Here
David Bowie--See Emily Play

Quoted from GreenApple

I suppose Pink Floyd became the architects of music. I like to think that they 'took over' from The Beatles, when the Fab Four dropped the musical complexity of 1967. Also, though some might deny this, I really think Floyd were ultimately founded on The Beatles anyway.

Quoted from GreenApple

But, I reckon no other band sounded as similar to The Beatles, at points, as Pink Floyd.

From 1970-1975 alone:
Wings
Badfinger
ELO
David Bowie
Trex

Pink Floyd carrying the Beatles torch? No. The guys from above did.

Quoted from MagicAlex

From 1970-1975 alone:
Wings
Badfinger
ELO
David Bowie
Trex

Pink Floyd carrying the Beatles torch? No. The guys from above did.

I agree. As well as ELP, The Moody Blues, Yes, Genesis, and many others.

But in 1969 when they released Music From The Film More Floyd took The Beatles and added a Dylanesque texture to it that remains truly classic.

Quoted from MagicAlex

From 1970-1975 alone:
Wings
Badfinger
ELO
David Bowie
Trex

Pink Floyd carrying the Beatles torch? No. The guys from above did.

These are good points, and I accept them. Especially ELO. But, how much were these bands sounding like the Beatles in the '60s? That's really what I meant - in the sixties.

Forgot to mention over the weekend; on Friday night's UK TV show Later With Jools Holland, Roger Waters was interviewed briefly by Holland, and he asked Waters two interesting questions:

Is there a chance of Pink Floyd reuniting after the Live 8 performance?

Answer: Waters said he thought it was quite possible.

How difficult is his current project compared to Pink Floyd?

Answer: He said Pink Floyd was ' a doddle' compared to his latest project!!!!!


Waters performed no music on the show.

Hasn't the Floyd already announced that they are touring? I'm getting confused. Damn that media machine!!! lol

I'm afraid they're not going to tour,... they've rejected some BIG offers some weeks ago (listened on the radio).

i would kill to see floyd

i hope they tour some day, but i don't think it will ever happen... maybe they'll do like 1 big concert in a specific place or a charity, but I dunno, I just don't see them playing in a big Europe+North American tour...maybe they'll just be playing in the UK i don't know....

but I'd like to see the whole pink floyd live one day, even if its a farewell tour...

No Floyd album since the mid-nineties! All the material they must have got together since then! Just dragging their feet. Maybe they are planning to retire it all on some fantastic project. And, maybe negotiating nowadays to get Roger back on board.

Quoted from GreenApple

No Floyd album since the mid-nineties! All the material they must have got together since then! Just dragging their feet. Maybe they are planning to retire it all on some fantastic project. And, maybe negotiating nowadays to get Roger back on board.

I think Roger wants but Dave doesn't.
Wearing the Inside Out from The Division Bell was great.

Well, Dave only did two solo albums...sadly! Both are great, especially the first. But, the second - nice production. If he's not mad keen on Floyd, it's a pity he doesn't give us a new solo album. I mean, if Dave became 'the voice' and guitar of Pink Floyd after Syd left, then those two solo albums are fairly Floydish and therefore a good 'substitute' for Floyd albums. Know what I mean?

Can't share your view on WTIO, sorry. Wright did better songs in early Floyd days. But, it's a pity Waters pushed him aside in the mid seventies. I heard Wright's album Wet Dream (!) a long time ago. That's also 'Floydish' and deserves a listen if you can beg, borrow, or download it.

Sorry to say that most of you seem much to optimistic about a reunion of any sorts.

pity.. pity...pity

Ive never bought any of the solo floyd except for the madcap laughs by syd

Get The Pros And Cons Of Hitchhiking and Amused To Death. Don't get Radio KAOS.

Quoted from number14

pity.. pity...pity

Ive never bought any of the solo floyd except for the madcap laughs by syd

you should have a listen to their stuff...there's some good stuff...

by the way, for those who didn't know yet Gilmour will be releasing a solo album in 2006

DAVID GILMOUR: On An Island...

Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour has more than one reason to celebrate on his 60th birthday next year - March 6th 2006 sees the long-awaited release of his new solo album "On An Island".

Released on EMI Records, the album is the first solo release from David since 1984's "About Face". Following the release of "On An Island", David will embark on a European and American tour during the months of March, April and May 2006 - and we should have details of these dates soon.

"On An Island" is produced by David, along with Chris Thomas and Phil Manzanera. Orchestrations are by the renowned composer Zbigniew Preisner and were recorded at Abbey Road Studios in London.

The title track teams Gilmour with David Crosby and Graham Nash - three of the greatest voices in contemporary music. Richard Wright, Robert Wyatt, Jools Holland, and Guy Pratt also feature on the album.


and I read somewhere on the net that they will do a small farewell tour in 2007, but thats probably BS lol

Quoted from lennon-legend

you should have a listen to their stuff...there's some good stuff...

by the way, for those who didn't know yet Gilmour will be releasing a solo album in 2006

DAVID GILMOUR: On An Island...

Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour has more than one reason to celebrate on his 60th birthday next year - March 6th 2006 sees the long-awaited release of his new solo album "On An Island".

Released on EMI Records, the album is the first solo release from David since 1984's "About Face". Following the release of "On An Island", David will embark on a European and American tour during the months of March, April and May 2006 - and we should have details of these dates soon.

"On An Island" is produced by David, along with Chris Thomas and Phil Manzanera. Orchestrations are by the renowned composer Zbigniew Preisner and were recorded at Abbey Road Studios in London.

The title track teams Gilmour with David Crosby and Graham Nash - three of the greatest voices in contemporary music. Richard Wright, Robert Wyatt, Jools Holland, and Guy Pratt also feature on the album.


and I read somewhere on the net that they will do a small farewell tour in 2007, but thats probably BS lol

Roger is touring, releasing a political album called Heartland, and (another!) sequel to The Wall!

r u serious
awesome

Quoted from number14

r u serious
awesome

Oh yes! Heartland is his new political album similiar to Amused To Death, and his next album is the third (!) sequel to The Wall!

hopefully it will be good

well i have changed quite a bit, at the begining of this poll I voted they rule a little bit, now it would be quite different!

Pink Floyd tour won't be happening, Pink Floyd & Waters deny rumours

http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/main.php?flash=present&quicktime=present

Quoted from raxo

I'm afraid they're not going to tour,... they've rejected some BIG offers some weeks ago (listened on the radio).

But it's sad, isn't it?  :-/

Albums of them heard so far:

The Dark Side of the Moon
The Wall
Wish You Were Here
Animals

What would you recommend me to listen to next?

Definitely Echoes.

That's a compilation of theirs ain't it?

Your right....I meant Meddle...I often do that.....Well spotted. ;)

What about Piper at the Gates of Dawn? I asked about that at another board and they said it might "too much of a change in styles of music to handle", taking in consideration the albums I have heard so far.

I think if you liked Animals....and considering the list of others, it may be best to work your way back to that album. It's kind of how I done it.

I thoroughly reccomend Saint Tropez off that album as a slinky summer feelgood tune along with the great and Epic 'Echoes' itself. Fearless is great too. I'm reckoning you'll like the harmonies on that track.

A bonus point for anyone who knows what GREAT, GREATEST soccer team is being supported in the background of Fearless. ;D

Lily the Pink
that's my excuse and I stick to it  ;D

I wasn't too much of a fan of Animals,even though I know many people who rate it as their best. I think Dark Side and The Wall are the best closely followed by WYWH. Just gotta love Shine on you crazy diamond.That whole album was a tribute to Syd was it not?

Quoted from ringo_rules

... Just gotta love Shine on you crazy diamond.That whole album was a tribute to Syd was it not?

Yes, it is ... Shine On You Crazy Diamond is a great effort ... pro-bab(l)y one of the best long themes ever ...

Agreed, definitely holds my attention even if it does go 17+ minutes

The long and peaceful intro ... the sweet crescendo ... then the lyrics and melody ... a great piece of work! ...

Amen to that! Lol..Whats your favourite album from Floyd Raxo?

The one with less filler is Dark Side Of The Moon ... but some rockers from The Wall are fine ... From Wish You Were Here the title song and Shine On You Crazy Diamond ... Their psychedelic songs from late 60s are good too ... too crazy, I mean ...

... if I've to choose just one -I know I'm not very original- but Dark Side Of The Moon ... my special moment is Brain Damage/Eclipse ... the middle-eight of Brain Damage is superb ... from that album I'm a bit tired of US & Them and Money but that Dave's guitar is awesome on those too ...  

Yeah Dark Side is all killer no filler! Time in my opinion is the best song on that album,"and you run and you run to catch up with the sun..." The Wall is superb in parts and yes it does lack a lot in other parts lol. Some would probably say the wall is Pink Floyd's White Album which isn't a bad thing because WA is my favourite album of all time.

Quoted from ringo_rules

Yeah Dark Side is all killer no filler! Time in my opinion is the best song on that album,"and you run and you run to catch up with the sun..." The Wall is superb in parts and yes it does lack a lot in other parts lol. Some would probably say the wall is Pink Floyd's White Album which isn't a bad thing because WA is my favourite album of all time.

Agree, mate! Great melodies, instrumentation, arrangements and imagination on Dark Side Of The Moon ... no weak theme there ... an unique ex-per-ence ...

... incredible but I've always thought about The Wall as Pink Floyd's White Album too!!!  :D

Ahh a connection haha!! :D

I think one thing bringing the wall down (hehe) is that maybe it was over ambitious perhaps.

Quoted from raxo

... incredible but I've always thought about The Wall as Pink Floyd's White Album too!!!  :D

Make that 3 people who have connected The White Album with The Wall. ;D

Although I think The Wall is not one of Pink Floyd's best albums... It tends to lack a lot in certain parts.

Dark Side of the Moon is their utter masterpiece. As you all said, "All killer no filler" indeed. :) And there aren't many albums who have that in their favor.

For those interested, here's a review I once did of the Dark Side of the Moon:

"This is truly a quite excellent album. There is a whole feeling of mystic which is absolutely out of this world.

For an album to be good, the instrumentation must be highly dominated (guitars, drums, bass, any other...) and all that combined with the appropriate vocals. The vocals don't have to necessarily be LOUD, astonishing or unique, they must simply fit with the instrumentation and be appropriate to the song's meaning and feeling.
For an album to be excellent, besides this, all the songs must go well with each other and have an altogether concept or a common atmosphere.
When this is present in an album, tied to all songs having a good sound quality and domination of sound, besides having to SOUND GOOD, and there is a good variety of sounds to entertain the listener, the album is a masterpiece.

And The Dark Side Of The Moon is one of the most perfect examples of this. There is frequently present a mystic atmosphere, and absolute fascinatingly weird concepts of sound, which fit perfectly together. The title itself is a good way to capture this spirit. As we all know, the real dark side of the moon is something unvisited by the human race. It's something we know exists, and we keep seeing it covered by the... light side of the moon. So, it's something we must imagine how it will be, in this way being a mystic place that we all know to exist, but that, even though it could be so visible to us from the Earth's surface, it keeps getting covered and out of our eye reach...

This whole album is an entire journey through lunacy. That's one of the greatest ways to describe it. The second you insert this CD on your stereo, a trip begins through the world of lunacy that could be situated in the real dark side of the moon... You take off at Speak To Me and land back on Eclipse.

Here's how this whole journey goes:

1. (a) Speak To Me - This is the introduction to your voyage through the world of lunacy. It presents to you how crazy and absolutely unlike anything you ever heard before this trip really is. There is a heart beat at the start, maybe symbolizing your own heart beat, as to creep you out... There are some voice parts in here talking about being mad and some maniac laughter, another factor that presents you with the lunacy present in this trip you're about to take. More sound effects kick in, building more climax, and there is finally a scream that absolutely creeps you out! Keeps building up intensity, and then eases up to...

(b) Breathe - This song is like the "Alright, folks, you're about to go on a very troubled and agitated ride. Relax for now, ease up, and just chill... Prepare yourselves for the voyage ahead of you." part of the trip. It is a smooth song, sounding quite nice and simple... It is still rock, as the voice of David Gilmour keeps reminding you... The power present is still relaxing, but a style of rock at the same time. As an individual song, Breathe has a good meaning to it: Relax through your life, but make sure to dedicate yourself to work. You may chill and go easy on life, but you must work hard and keep yourself dedicated. It simultaneously fits in as a lesson for life and as a step on this "lunacy voyage" we are taking as we listen to this album. Then, as the song ends, there is a connection to the next track as we we start listening to...

2. On The Run - As a step on this voyage, it represents that "Alright, you've relaxed... Now, step up the pace as we start this magnificent trip.". As an individual song, it is a magnificent dominance of techno music and has some of the greatest synthetizer sound effects ever created. The effort was amazing, as they wanted to reproduce the pressure of travelling today. Some people say that using only technologic means to a song is a bad sign, since they didn't use real instruments to play it, showing a lack of quality. I say that is bullshit. Pink Floyd got even more amazing when they showed they could not only play some of the greatest instrumental work, but also dominate the world of technologic environment around them and still make something good out of it. Then, as the crazy and mind-blowing effects start building up to come out on the end as a explosion effect, they start easing up and leading directly to...

3. Time - We are stepping through the voyage already. All the songs so far have been a way to get ready for the trip and we are now already on it. The first part of this trip is about a direct topic, and so is another song ahead, as to give a direct lesson to life for people, STILL sounding good and keeping track with the voyage of crazyness. This one is about time. It's unbelievable how the topic itself keeps getting unraveled on the song's composition. It is 7 minutes long, showing already a considerable extension of time. Still, it serves its purpose, always with a rock sound to it. The bell and alarm effects at the beginning are a way to introduce the topic, which is, by now, very obvious to be about time. These effects are a way to say "Attention now! The voyage has now technically begun and we are about to say something serious." Then, come the spectacular effects made with the constant beat through the first minutes, also with deep instrumentation work from the back, and spectacular drum dominance. Extending this part so long is also a way of saying "Get ready. It is an important lesson we are about to say, and absolute attention would be appreciated. Start preparing yourselves, please, the voyage has begun now, so get aware of it as you enter a new world. You will now learn our first topic. Please be aware of this.". As this kicks into the listener's head, the song begins 2 minutes and a half after the start of the track, and the powerful voice of Gilmour introduces this topic. The instrumentation is always great, and we can obviously tell the dedication of this band in this song, which hits you more on the impact of this subject. The solo is absolutely amazing, and is there to show you that, although the trip is getting crazy, this is still a pure rock album. Touching meaning to it, too, this song is about how time passes so quickly before we are aware of it and that we should make the most out of every moment, controlling the destiny at our hands, without letting time simply slip away... There is a reprise of the initial song "Breathe" at the end of this song, as another sign of "Well, keep this subject in you. Now, relax, and chill out, as we are entering, again, a new step of our magical trip...", which directly connects to...

4. The Great Gig In The Sky - A unique song, as it is merely instrumental work, with some voice parts and a mind-blowing scream practically all the way through it! Now, we are having an indirect lesson on the meaning of death and how it is natural and, therefore, should not be feared. We have an introduction for this topic, as an Irish doorman, Gerry, tells us how it is not necessary to be afraid of dying, since you've gotta go sometime... The whole scream is highly interpretable by many, but it very possibly is a way of showing you how much death should not be feared. Hearing that scream makes you think about maybe a person in constant pain, or someone terribly frightened of death, and in, whatever the case may be, you'll always get a feeling of seeing just how ridiculous it is to be afraid of something so natural, even if it is very mystic... The dominance of the instruments is always great, as we are shown a good and with enough variety tune all the way through the scream. A nice organ sound to it, maybe to relate more to death, but that combines perfectly with the scream and the meaning in this song.

5. Money - Now, the trip starts taking more beat as we are said "Hey, we are on a lunacy trip, but we've still got the style! Listen to the lesson in THIS song!". This is the other song about a specific and direct topic, which, in this case also coincidentally, was also all revolved around the song itself. First, with the 'cash loop' effects, that quickly pointed out to us the subject at hand now, and the rhythm present throughout the song, which resembles a kind of greed and financial ambition. Actually, even this song got to give Pink Floyd lots of money, since it was also the only song off Dark Side of the Moon to reach the top 20 in the US. This album has another, maybe more indirect symbol of the ambition money supposedly brings: there is an introduction of a new instrument here - the saxophone, which they mastered the dominance of perfectly. It is a great extra to this song, and strengthens it, too. The constant feeling of greed and ambition in this song, along with the 'cash loop' effect, helps the listener stay directly focused on the money subject, and helps him with the lesson at hand: Money does not bring happiness. This lesson is more indirect than the one at Time, as the lyrics are not so specific and have a deeper meaning, in which the language has some signs of irony related to the lesson they're trying to tell here. It's a good turn on this album, and helps make it have more variety, which obviously contributed to the grandiosity of it. The fact that there is a huge bit in this song which is only instrumental managed to show us how Pink Floyd can symbolize us something so greatly without any presence of voice, just instruments. And the meaning is still there, even when there is no-one singing. After this unique song of this album, the trip carries on and is starting to approach its near ending, as we are taken on to...

6. Us And Them - This song also serves as another sign to the listener, now more of the "Well, we've shown our style big time, but now we have more important and deep steps for you to go through in this trip... After all, this voyage is not over yet." The echoes are great here, and their purpose is amazing, since they become a symbol of the 'deep' meaning in this song. It is a direct calling to the listener as a way for him to carefully listen and understand the spacial meaning of this song. This is also why this song is done in such a slow and quite tune... Serves as a way for the listener to pay more attention and take more careful notice to the details. It's an awesome song about the tendency of people to separate themselves and go against one another for even the most simple things... The saxophone solos here are a great way to make the listener take notice and think more carefully on the meaning of this song, and also symbolize how old-fashioned this 'lesson' is. They represent the blues kind of songs, so it takes the listener back in time so that it becomes present the idea that this is something that has occurred since the beginning of times: The partition between people and the tendency that has become of that. It makes a great purpose on this album and then it directly connects to...

7. Any Colour You Like - A fascinating instrumental bit which is a trip through your mind and imagination, as your brain gets all agitated after listening to the great sound effects of this song. It is the next step of this voyage, the "Alright, we gave you our lessons. Think about them, deeply, as we go on through the crazyness and lunacy and come to our next part of this trip. Now, relax again and chill out... You have seen the most important parts of this voyage. It is coming to an end, so get ready and relax..." This is actually, unofficially, the 2nd reprise of Breathe and serves almost the same purpose as that song. It then introduces us to...

8. Brain Damage - This is the definite statement of lunacy, crazyness and mental instability this album has stamped all around it. It is saying to you "Well, you have come this far, so your mind has gone through a permanent transformation and you are a lunatic!" It is obviously only a symbol of how such a wide range of lessons and important informations will affect you, making you have a different point of view on everything around. At least, that is what they intended and this song shows you that, as it represents lunacy in its most natural state. The mild laughters contribute to this symbol of lunacy, as it is a known fact many of the crazy folks out there sometimes have a tendency to idiotically laugh. Great song composition, though, and an excellent power and intensity given to the chorus of this song, which only contributes more and more to its message. It is a great and one of the most essential parts of this album, as it is starts clearing up your mind on how influential this album may become to you and how much of renovation these ideas may become to you... Afterwards, we conclude the crazy trip with...

9. Eclipse - This is a perfect conclusion to this album, as it is way of saying "This voyage has come to its end, but now everything around you will look and seem different to you, after the influence this trip has made on you. You will not forget us so easily!" You hear this song, and your mind starts going back to normal, after the out of this world intensity and power present in this whole album starts to fade away and come together as one to your mind. Now, you are confused, but you can't help but feel different and better about yourself. There is a heart beat in the end of this song, which symbolizes that now everything is normal again, but that the mystic is present everywhere you go. The meaning is so great, as it says that, even though you might have thought this was too revolutionary and too mystic an album, the fact is that all the mystic and all the mystery is present in your everyday life and that, after listening to this album, you will hopefully be aware of it.

It is a great trip to the mind, to the ears, and even to your thought. It's a masterpiece and a divine piece of work, that definitely deserves the title of one of the greatest rock album of all-time. Get into this album, and you WILL feel changed."

Quoted from Lostio

Make that 3 people who have connected The White Album with The Wall. ;D

Although I think The Wall is not one of Pink Floyd's best albums... It tends to lack a lot in certain parts.

Dark Side of the Moon is their utter masterpiece. As you all said, "All killer no filler" indeed. :) And there aren't many albums who have that in their favor.

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^Good to read my thoughts in some other's words!

"The Wall ... It tends to lack a lot in certain parts." I would say the same about The Guys (aka The White Album) ...