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Title: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: tkitna on Jan 05, 2005, 07:08 PM
You know,,,,I tried. PC and I agreed and really gave it a shot and Dirk wont comply. I wish it were as simple as Dmitry just banning him and we could be done with him, but it doesnt seem to work. I wish we all could just add him to our ignore list, but he has so many alias' that its just not possible. Maybe the moderators could just delete his messages, but thats a tall order.

I dont understand why he cant be civil. We extend the olive branch and he pisses on it. He pm's and harasses members and still continues to try to belittle people.

I just want to apologize to the forum for the things that I may post in the near future. Hopefully, everybody will realize that its all meant to be directed towards Dirk. If anybody has a better idea, i'm all for it.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: number14 on Jan 05, 2005, 07:12 PM
didnt you just want to welcome him
sorry im confused
im probably just not paying attention
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Indica on Jan 05, 2005, 07:18 PM
He is like cancer to Dm's.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: tkitna on Jan 05, 2005, 07:44 PM
[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=1 date=1104973925]didnt you just want to welcome him
sorry im confused
im probably just not paying attention[/quote]

Yes! PC and I decided that we may have just all gotten off on the wrong foot and maybe a start over was in order. Well, we see how well that went. He's a troll theres no two ways about it.

Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on Jan 05, 2005, 08:20 PM
On Standby!!!
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Lucy In The Sky on Jan 06, 2005, 05:04 AM
I think Dirk has gotten the best of you. You're doing exactly what he wanted you to do.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: pc31 on Jan 06, 2005, 05:23 AM
lets just..nore him.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: tkitna on Jan 06, 2005, 05:37 AM
I suppose your right, but it is fun. I hope you realize this will be the 2nd time i've relented.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: pc31 on Jan 06, 2005, 05:48 AM
yeah but under extreme conditions.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: on Jan 06, 2005, 05:58 AM
Nobody Love Me when i Down and Out





Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Bruno on Jan 06, 2005, 10:34 AM
I got an email from a child robbery a few days ago, I wonder who that is? ::)
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on Jan 06, 2005, 10:39 AM
i believe he must be ignored
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on Jan 06, 2005, 11:25 AM
I join the offensive pm club!  As follows

"ignored yourself little boy"

thanks dumbo, always so observant.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Indica on Jan 06, 2005, 11:45 AM
Its a growing club..
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mairi on Jan 06, 2005, 03:15 PM
"you must be stupid Mairi"

Hmm, no, not me, but I do know who IS stupid...

Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: on Jan 07, 2005, 03:34 AM
I don't understand this at all... This person, whoever he is, he a human being like you and me... Maybe he is annoying all of you people on purpose because you belittle him and offend him so much... I may be wrong, but I'm sure most of the Beatles wouldn't reject a person like him, just because me may not speak perfect English and therefore doesn't make sense to most of us...

Maybe I just don't understand why we all can't respect and tolerate each other... Maybe if you just try your best to understand what he is saying instead of banding together and making fun of his poor English he'll be more tolerable... I mean, I don't seem to have any problems with him... He seems very helpful, in my opinion... And he's obviously a Beatles fan, otherwise, why would he be here? He's at least got one thing in common with all of us... So why not try a little acceptance?

And don't say it didn't work... because if it didn't, then obviously none of you tried hard enough... anything concerning human connection and relation is possible... it's impossible for you all to think people can't change, including this guy that you're all bunching up over...

It's not like me at all to write "angry letters" to anyone I don't know, but this is really starting to get to me... He is just like you and me... Imagine if you were in his shoes... He's from a different country than you with a different language... He love the Beatles... He goes to the internet to find other people to converse with about them... He only finds english language forums, so he has no choice but to join there... The poor quality of most machine translators jumbles up a lot of what he is saying therefore, he is "jumped" by most of the members of this forum because he isn't speaking cleary and what he is saying may come out wrong to some people... Instead of merely being kicked aside while other conversation continues, he is put as the center of attention where people ridicule him daily, as if it is their job...

It's all nonsense... We can all get along if we try... So... just try :)

Thanks all :)

*Steps off soapbox*
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 07, 2005, 03:47 AM
Thanks you, you it seized correctly
You speak me from the heart
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: tkitna on Jan 07, 2005, 04:59 AM
QuoteI don't understand this at all...

This is true. There is a lot more going on here than just a language barrier. He has belittled everyone on this forum several times over more so than we could ever belittle him. How does harasing a 14 year old girl through private messenging with sexual content sound? How does putting down other countries ideas and government sound? How does the questioning of fan loyality to the Beatles and intellect sound? The list goes on. Every forum member has been belittled by this punk at one time or another and everybody has given him more than enough chances. There will be no more.

QuoteSo why not try a little acceptance?

I/we've tried twice now and it didnt work.

QuoteAnd don't say it didn't work... because if it didn't, then obviously none of you tried hard enough...

Trying works both ways. Dont be blinded.


QuoteHe is just like you and me...

No, we are very different. He's egotistical and has pushed his 'your not as smart as me and nobody on this board is a true fan' attitude far enough. Your more than welcome to buddy up with him and find this out personally.

QuoteHe's from a different country than you with a different language...

Many other members are from different countrys and they dont act like him.

I apologize to you PaulLennon68 because I realize i'm the biggest colperate concerning your post, but I could give you numerous instances and examples of his wrong doing by digging up some of his initial posts under his first 8 to 10 alias's. As it is, I will just ignore him from now on and hope that he leaves.

Sorry, but if Dmitry would ever give me the power to become a moderator on every topic, nobody would hear from him again.






Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 07, 2005, 05:45 AM
QuoteHow does harasing a 14 year old girl through private messenging with sexual content sound?



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Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: on Jan 07, 2005, 06:04 AM
Tkitna (I'm trying to answer all that you said, so please excuse the sloppy order I answered them in... anyway...), I'm not buddying up with anyone... We're all here in the same boat and we need to realize it... Acceptance is the only way... There's a freedom in the world that I think, by now, we all share, which is the freedom of speech (at least on the internet, that is). This means that he can come back as much as he wants... It's insane to try to block one person... And the only reason he keeps coming back under different names is because either you all get him banned or he is too embarrased by all of you to return under that name...

And since when does ignoring not work? I mean, surely we've all heard of it and done it, why not try it out? If you don't like what he says, who told you that you have to answer him?

Also, the only reason he's different is because you make him different... We are all egotistical by nature, no matter what any one says about it. Everyone tries to push their country or whatever else as the best on the planet, whether they do it blatantly or descretely, but we all imply when we speak of it... On a solid ground level, we are all the same. We are human. Nothing more nothing less. That's what the likes of John Lennon, etc tried to push in their time that no one else got. I mean, honestly... I think a Beatles forum would be the most brotherly place in the entire world, just by that fact alone...

Anyway, I say it's time to leave Dirk (is it?) alone. Let him stay long enough to have only one name he goes by. And if he says something you don't like, or that any of you don't like, it is possible to ignore him...

And by the way, who died and made you divine ruler of the world to control what comes out of every man's mouth or arsehole just to make yourself feel a little bit more comfortable? A bit tempting, isn't it?

Anyway. Sorry if I offending you... I'm just a little ticked at other things going on, so sorry if I was a little harsh at any point. :)
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: on Jan 07, 2005, 06:16 AM
Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...

In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off  ::)"... in what way is this useful to anyone? It's just plain cruel to him.

There is a cliched saying that I really like, "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." And guess what! It's true! Maybe if you showed a little love and care to him as a human being, he will be friendlier, in your eyes...

At least since I've been here I've had not problems or trouble with him, nor have I actually seen him ask for or start any trouble. But that's from what I've seen. Since I've been here though, he has helped me out in several ways trying to find things. And I thank him for that...

I love everyone here like family. I just can't understand why no one else can accept him... If I can, I'm sure everyone else can, if you open your mind a little... It isn't hard to do.  :)
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: on Jan 07, 2005, 06:23 AM
[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=16 date=1105091269]Thanks you, you it seized correctly
You speak me from the heart[/quote]

You're welcome.  :)
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 07, 2005, 06:44 AM
You're welcome.too


Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: The End on Jan 07, 2005, 07:02 AM
[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]At least since I've been here I've had not problems or trouble with him, nor have I actually seen him ask for or start any trouble. But that's from what I've seen. Since I've been here though, he has helped me out in several ways trying to find things. And I thank him for that...

I love everyone here like family. I just can't understand why no one else can accept him... If I can, I'm sure everyone else can, if you open your mind a little... It isn't hard to do.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 07, 2005, 07:07 AM
QuoteI think we have a VERY tolerant forum here,

You insulted and insulted me from first time


You that did not fit my English was not good
Which I mean pitch name modified
Which I had logged on again myself because I my password had forgotten

Thus play here not the innocent ones

Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mairi on Jan 07, 2005, 11:54 AM
[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=18 date=1105098354]



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Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on Jan 07, 2005, 11:58 AM
[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...
In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mairi on Jan 07, 2005, 12:03 PM
I don't care if he has good English or not. It's what he actually says that matters. he is costantlt harassing and belittling other members, including me, and I for one would like to see it be put to a stop.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on Jan 07, 2005, 04:24 PM
[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...

In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: The End on Jan 07, 2005, 06:46 PM
[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=24 date=1105103235]

You insulted and insulted me from first time


You that did not fit my English was not good
Which I mean pitch name modified
Which I had logged on again myself because I my password had forgotten

Thus play here not the innocent ones

[/quote]

I'm really sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. And I'm not saying that in a disrespectful way.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on Jan 07, 2005, 09:05 PM
Ok, Now I really have to speak. Your intentions Paul Lennon are indeed noble and honourable. To think that we each promote or subliminally promote our country is bollocks!!! Pardon my harshness. I say this for I am indeed a mongrel! that is to say that I am one of those interbred no fixed roots abode kinda guys that transcends that thinking. It's almost patronising you saying that.
'^So?' Although possibly interpreted as antagonistic is actually an opportunity for Dirk to explain his 'Better late than never' dig which can only be interpreted as negative.
If you dug deeper in your already extensive research you may find the many offers of reconciliation have been made. Infact there is a thread where PC31 and myself initiate this. So as personally as I react to your rightous statement and being that I am all things passifist, I can not ignore an idle NEGATIVE remark. Infact nor can many others who generate much goodwill on this forum.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: pc31 on Jan 08, 2005, 05:23 AM
lool = that equals me looking on.
see yo9u assumed too much.
ask dicrk about him constantly pming a 14 year old girl.....he stalks her daily.every day she recieves pms with dimbo confessing that he loves her.
EVERYDAY.he sends threats to those who criticize a post he has made.who knows how many times he has civil because his uncivilized post number more.
I WILL NOT MAKE ANOTHER EFFORT.the guy is a waste of epidermis in my opinion.
everyday he pms a 14 year old girl.she has asked him time and time again.i asked him twice myself in pms.he cares for nothing or noone (except the girl he is stalking)here.so why is he here????to cause grief seems to be his main objective.
if he would desist in the pming of the 14 year old i will tolerate ,but not respond to him.
as the others have told you HE IS A BAD BOY.he has you fooled with his words.smoke screening you he is.in the words of yoda.
when he resumes his m.o. you will see him for what he is.  heres looking at you kid....lool
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Lenny Pane on Jan 08, 2005, 08:33 AM
Lenny lenny sits on the fence
Listening to dirk who makes no sence
Reading all the posts each day
Trying to find something to say
You've changed your name from bla to john
When everyone here cant be wrong
They try and try to be polite
When all you do is give them shite
You patronize and put them down
When really its you that is the clown
They make a thread Unwelcome dirk
Which must leave you feeling like a jerk
Tumbling fast into the pit
You made you bed so lie in it
I find it so hard to believe
Dirk, get the message---------->PLEASE LEAVE !

Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mairi on Jan 08, 2005, 09:02 AM
Quoteask dicrk about him constantly pming a 14 year old girl.....he stalks her daily.every day she recieves pms with dimbo confessing that he loves her.

Well, actually, he only e-mailed me a couple of times, so I blocked him.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 09:04 AM
Quoteask dirk about him constantly pming a 14 year old girl.....he stalks her daily.every day she recieves pms with dimbo confessing that he loves her.


I want to see the PM's
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: SieLiebtDich on Jan 08, 2005, 09:10 AM
 I can't believe his making himself look innocent, and yes I do recall calling stupid, because he keeps on sending insults on the pms like;
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 09:12 AM
Yes but no sexuell or?????
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: SieLiebtDich on Jan 08, 2005, 09:14 AM
[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=36 date=1105197156]Yes but no sexuell or?????[/quote]

its still called harassment if its unwanted for your information
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 09:17 AM
And to info. I have you only troubled after their me persists insulted, thus ball to keep flat.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mairi on Jan 08, 2005, 09:20 AM
What are you trying to say? I seriously can't understand you.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 09:23 AM
I did not begin ,now understand
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 09:25 AM
first -good my english is bad
second- many remove nicks of i am guilty
third- therefore one does not need to insult me ala Dumbo
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on Jan 08, 2005, 12:38 PM
Maybe if he wrote in German, then someone could translate it... ;)
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 12:44 PM
is the same problem when i write  german in english


Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Mr.Moonlight on Jan 08, 2005, 12:48 PM
Example I writes this text, I hopes it understands the sense.


Ich bin nicht so wie es zu sein scheint.
Title: Re: Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!
Post by: Real Love on Jan 09, 2005, 01:24 AM
[quote by=Sie_Liebt_Dich link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=35 date=1105197003] I can't believe his making himself look innocent, and yes I do recall calling stupid, because he keeps on sending insults on the pms like;