Lets Un-Welcome Dirk!

Started by tkitna, Jan 05, 2005, 07:08 PM

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I don't understand this at all... This person, whoever he is, he a human being like you and me... Maybe he is annoying all of you people on purpose because you belittle him and offend him so much... I may be wrong, but I'm sure most of the Beatles wouldn't reject a person like him, just because me may not speak perfect English and therefore doesn't make sense to most of us...

Maybe I just don't understand why we all can't respect and tolerate each other... Maybe if you just try your best to understand what he is saying instead of banding together and making fun of his poor English he'll be more tolerable... I mean, I don't seem to have any problems with him... He seems very helpful, in my opinion... And he's obviously a Beatles fan, otherwise, why would he be here? He's at least got one thing in common with all of us... So why not try a little acceptance?

And don't say it didn't work... because if it didn't, then obviously none of you tried hard enough... anything concerning human connection and relation is possible... it's impossible for you all to think people can't change, including this guy that you're all bunching up over...

It's not like me at all to write "angry letters" to anyone I don't know, but this is really starting to get to me... He is just like you and me... Imagine if you were in his shoes... He's from a different country than you with a different language... He love the Beatles... He goes to the internet to find other people to converse with about them... He only finds english language forums, so he has no choice but to join there... The poor quality of most machine translators jumbles up a lot of what he is saying therefore, he is "jumped" by most of the members of this forum because he isn't speaking cleary and what he is saying may come out wrong to some people... Instead of merely being kicked aside while other conversation continues, he is put as the center of attention where people ridicule him daily, as if it is their job...

It's all nonsense... We can all get along if we try... So... just try :)

Thanks all :)

*Steps off soapbox*

Mr.Moonlight

Thanks you, you it seized correctly
You speak me from the heart

tkitna

QuoteI don't understand this at all...

This is true. There is a lot more going on here than just a language barrier. He has belittled everyone on this forum several times over more so than we could ever belittle him. How does harasing a 14 year old girl through private messenging with sexual content sound? How does putting down other countries ideas and government sound? How does the questioning of fan loyality to the Beatles and intellect sound? The list goes on. Every forum member has been belittled by this punk at one time or another and everybody has given him more than enough chances. There will be no more.

QuoteSo why not try a little acceptance?

I/we've tried twice now and it didnt work.

QuoteAnd don't say it didn't work... because if it didn't, then obviously none of you tried hard enough...

Trying works both ways. Dont be blinded.


QuoteHe is just like you and me...

No, we are very different. He's egotistical and has pushed his 'your not as smart as me and nobody on this board is a true fan' attitude far enough. Your more than welcome to buddy up with him and find this out personally.

QuoteHe's from a different country than you with a different language...

Many other members are from different countrys and they dont act like him.

I apologize to you PaulLennon68 because I realize i'm the biggest colperate concerning your post, but I could give you numerous instances and examples of his wrong doing by digging up some of his initial posts under his first 8 to 10 alias's. As it is, I will just ignore him from now on and hope that he leaves.

Sorry, but if Dmitry would ever give me the power to become a moderator on every topic, nobody would hear from him again.







Mr.Moonlight

QuoteHow does harasing a 14 year old girl through private messenging with sexual content sound?



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Tkitna (I'm trying to answer all that you said, so please excuse the sloppy order I answered them in... anyway...), I'm not buddying up with anyone... We're all here in the same boat and we need to realize it... Acceptance is the only way... There's a freedom in the world that I think, by now, we all share, which is the freedom of speech (at least on the internet, that is). This means that he can come back as much as he wants... It's insane to try to block one person... And the only reason he keeps coming back under different names is because either you all get him banned or he is too embarrased by all of you to return under that name...

And since when does ignoring not work? I mean, surely we've all heard of it and done it, why not try it out? If you don't like what he says, who told you that you have to answer him?

Also, the only reason he's different is because you make him different... We are all egotistical by nature, no matter what any one says about it. Everyone tries to push their country or whatever else as the best on the planet, whether they do it blatantly or descretely, but we all imply when we speak of it... On a solid ground level, we are all the same. We are human. Nothing more nothing less. That's what the likes of John Lennon, etc tried to push in their time that no one else got. I mean, honestly... I think a Beatles forum would be the most brotherly place in the entire world, just by that fact alone...

Anyway, I say it's time to leave Dirk (is it?) alone. Let him stay long enough to have only one name he goes by. And if he says something you don't like, or that any of you don't like, it is possible to ignore him...

And by the way, who died and made you divine ruler of the world to control what comes out of every man's mouth or arsehole just to make yourself feel a little bit more comfortable? A bit tempting, isn't it?

Anyway. Sorry if I offending you... I'm just a little ticked at other things going on, so sorry if I was a little harsh at any point. :)

Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...

In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off  ::)"... in what way is this useful to anyone? It's just plain cruel to him.

There is a cliched saying that I really like, "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." And guess what! It's true! Maybe if you showed a little love and care to him as a human being, he will be friendlier, in your eyes...

At least since I've been here I've had not problems or trouble with him, nor have I actually seen him ask for or start any trouble. But that's from what I've seen. Since I've been here though, he has helped me out in several ways trying to find things. And I thank him for that...

I love everyone here like family. I just can't understand why no one else can accept him... If I can, I'm sure everyone else can, if you open your mind a little... It isn't hard to do.  :)

[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=16 date=1105091269]Thanks you, you it seized correctly
You speak me from the heart[/quote]

You're welcome.  :)

Mr.Moonlight


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[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]At least since I've been here I've had not problems or trouble with him, nor have I actually seen him ask for or start any trouble. But that's from what I've seen. Since I've been here though, he has helped me out in several ways trying to find things. And I thank him for that...

I love everyone here like family. I just can't understand why no one else can accept him... If I can, I'm sure everyone else can, if you open your mind a little... It isn't hard to do.

Mr.Moonlight

QuoteI think we have a VERY tolerant forum here,

You insulted and insulted me from first time


You that did not fit my English was not good
Which I mean pitch name modified
Which I had logged on again myself because I my password had forgotten

Thus play here not the innocent ones


Mairi

[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=18 date=1105098354]



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I am posting on an internet forum, therefore my opinion is fact.

Soft_Guitar60

[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...
In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off

Mairi

I don't care if he has good English or not. It's what he actually says that matters. he is costantlt harassing and belittling other members, including me, and I for one would like to see it be put to a stop.
I am posting on an internet forum, therefore my opinion is fact.

Herecomesyoursun

[quote by=PaulLennon68 link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=20 date=1105100184]Just an example of this cruelty towards this human...

In a thread posted on January 6th, Herecomesthesun starts off by saying "I got it for Christmas. Its great!," referring to Postcards From the Boys in the Ringo forum (the title of the thread)...

Then Dirk comments with "Yep better late as never , have this Book since 3 months"... 'Yep,' referring to the book being great, 'better late as never' referring to the book being out so long and that he had it for 3 months already...

This is followed by An Apple Beatle's "^So?"... Is that necessary? Did that honestly, really need to have been said? Why can't he answer a question without being harassed?

Then pc31 says "lool", which i'm assuming is "lol", further ridiculing Dirk.

Then SieLiebtDich finishes with "that idiot is always showing off

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[quote by=Mr.Moonlight link=Blah.pl?b=conversations,m=1104973737,s=24 date=1105103235]

You insulted and insulted me from first time


You that did not fit my English was not good
Which I mean pitch name modified
Which I had logged on again myself because I my password had forgotten

Thus play here not the innocent ones

[/quote]

I'm really sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say. And I'm not saying that in a disrespectful way.