Going to Hamburg has nothing to do with Pete Best Bobber, im talking strictly from the group sucking to learning how to actually play their instruments, be in key, and learn to entertain because they were playing 6 hour sets three times a day. I also think that the decision to allow Brian Epstein as their manager was the most important decision as well. That man totally changed their image and cultivated/marketed them. He used all his resources and energy to get them a recording contract and to get them exposure. Without hiring him, we would not know who the Beatles are today.