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[mclen57]

Were coming up on the 25th anniversary of John's death and one thing that has really gotten my balls in a twist is this idiotic comparison between John any rock star that has died since then. When Cobain blew his brains out, all I could hear was "He was a John Lennon of his time". OH PLEASE!! Same thing with Michael Hutchence. I seriously don't think John was a suicidal manic depressive or a kinky self-affixiated sex nut! Is that what John's legacy is? A measuring stick for every rock artist that dies before their time? You want to compare these guys to anybody, try Jim Morrison. That would be more fitting! That's my 2 cents. What say you?

[tkitna]

First of all, I cant stand Kobain or Nirvana and the people that compare him with Lennon doesnt know Lennon or the Beatles. Ok, Nirvana broke society from 80's big hair music so that they could listen to 90's grunge. Gee thanks. I freaking hate both genres. He gets way too much credit in my opinion. I've never heard these great masterpiece songs he supposedly wrote and plus he offed himself. What a girl private.

[Bobber]

Kurt who?

[tkitna]

Kurt Kobain from Nirvana.

[Bobber]

Kurt Kobain from Nirvana.

Yes I know. Just to ask the question: What does Kurt Cobain think he is/was? He's not even in John's shadow.

[tkitna]

Sorry, now I feel silly (give me a break, i've been at work for the last 12 hours).

[Bobber]

No worries. Just take a break.

I won't claim that somehow Kurt Cobain was the next John Lennon, although I can see some strong similarities.  Both had an amazing ear for pop music; Bono of U2 once claimed that the Beatles wrote classic pop/rock songs, much as the Beatles did.  An interesting note, Kurt wrote About a Girl after spending all night listening to Meet the Beatles.

Both had a disillusionment with society and expressed it often times very angrily.  While John was much more extroverted with political protests, Kurt would internalize these concerns and fears, which would eventually lead to his own collapse.  Both were also universally beloved by their own generation, and not to sound clich?d, but both were very much the voice of their generation.  

In the end, maybe the comparisons stop here and their only real link is that they were both exceptionally talented songwriters.  But, it

[JonnyMoondog]

I won't claim that somehow Kurt Cobain was the next John Lennon, although I can see some strong similarities.

[number14]

I Like only a Few Songs From Nirvan, there music is totally different from John lennon's, I DOnt see How you compare the two. They were both skilled.

[andersonCouncill]

Well, I wasn't trying to compare Nirvana and The Beatles. I just wrote it and thats what came out. I never said "okay, so I'm writing a song about Kurt Cobain to Come Togethor." I actually was thinking about all these biographies on Cobain I had read (which acknowledged several times influence from Lennon in lyrical style) and started singing aloud. After about 3 lines I realized I was singing to the tune of Come Togethor. I sat down, wrote it, and the next day I posted it.

Great body of work? 3 CDs not including Incesticide and the Box Set? 'In Utero' had peaked and was doing a quick slide down the charts when Kurt Cobain killed himself. It just proves that the best career move an artist can have is death. Nirvana wasn't evolving into anything. They'd probably be playing at a Holiday Inn right now had Kurt lived. I can see how people can buy into the myth, and if it makes them feel good, no harm done. No John Lennon though.

[mclen57]

Great body of work? 3 CDs not including Incesticide and the Box Set? 'In Utero' had peaked and was doing a quick slide down the charts when Kurt Cobain killed himself. It just proves that the best career move an artist can have is death. Nirvana wasn't evolving into anything. They'd probably be playing at a Holiday Inn right now had Kurt lived. I can see how people can buy into the myth, and if it makes them feel good, no harm done. No John Lennon though.

I agree. I don't think they really had the musical chops to have any lasting power like say, U2.

[Bobber]

I don't think Mr Cobain was the kind of voice of his generation in the way John Lennon was. Kurt died to quickly to become a really important voice. A lot of people from his generation heard of him for the first time at the announcement of his death.

[Starry Night]

I don't really understand the way people are talking about Kurt Cobain here, as if he was a no-no. Personally I don't see a comparison with John Lennon, but as far as I know Cobain never claimed that. Cobain can't be compared to anyone, like John Lennon can't be compared to anyone. The only thing you can say about it is that Cobain was a huge Beatlesfan and he admired John Lennon. In fact, when Nevermind was recorded Cobain didn't agree with the producer on dubbing voices on the record. The only way he could be persuaded was by the remark that Lennon often used to do that. Cobain admired Lennon as Lennon admired Presley. But never wanting to look like him or imitate him.

Kurt who? I guess you don't know what you're talking about. Kurt Cobain was a great songwriter and many Nirvanasongs hit me exactly like many Beatles-songs do. Those are really strong, original songs that never get boring. Cobain's lyrics are like crystal. I think it's a shame that Cobain destroyed himself, but at the same time I think it was unavoidable. Nirvana sounded like Nirvana because of that dark side, that finally dragged him down.

Like Nirvana or don't, but don't underestimate Cobain. It's silly. And - by the way - don't you dare compare Michael bloody Hutchence to Jim Morrison!!!

[Heart]

Were coming up on the 25th anniversary of John's death and one thing that has really gotten my balls in a twist is this idiotic comparison between John any rock star that has died since then. When Cobain blew his brains out, all I could hear was "He was a John Lennon of his time". OH PLEASE!! Same thing with Michael Hutchence. I seriously don't think John was a suicidal manic depressive or a kinky self-affixiated sex nut! Is that what John's legacy is? A measuring stick for every rock artist that dies before their time? You want to compare these guys to anybody, try Jim Morrison. That would be more fitting! That's my 2 cents. What say you?

That's incredibly harsh. I, myself, don't like to compare but some of the things you said were rather heartless.

[Benreturns]

Kurt Cobain really bugs me. Only because I think there was some spark in there - he really did have a good idea for a pop tune and was at the forefront of a movement (as in PARTof a movment - Nirvana were not the WHOLE movment itself) that sparked off a trend. But what a trend to spark off - Grunge. Its too introspective for my liking and focuses too much on the bad points without offering any positivity (not from what ive heard but I do admit ive never took a VERY deep look).

I mean I can see why some people who dont know much about music might compare the Kurt to John. They both were 'deep' popstars with long hair and both are dead by a violent manner, But thats it for me. John was so much more (Kurt punched himself out early - his legacy ends there - what else has he to offer for the good of things - he shot himself for christsake...). but John was a survivor. Kurt was a victim of his personality - Johns persona was shaped by means out of his control - a much harsher lesson. Ive no doubt he was in pain and feel sorry for the chap but as a musician its much to self indulgant/introspective for me.Im sure he DID know a good tune, but come on... John Lennon??

[pc31]

i still like them......

[tkitna]

They still suck. Cant see the big fuss over them.

[pc31]

you just gotta be open minded and listen cuz...