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The CAVERN: The Truth
« on: October 03, 2004, 04:18:43 PM »

Since the closure in 1973 there has been much misinformation regarding the club and now is the time to dispel three of these Cavern myths.

Myth One
The Cavern was knocked down in 1973 and in its place a car park was built.

The Facts
The Cavern was and still is a basement cellar club. The buildings above the Cavern were fruit warehouses. These were knocked down in 1973. The Cavern was below ground level thus it was not knocked down, it was simply filled in.

The Reason for the Myth
When the fruit warehouses were knocked down, it left an open space within the city centre. This open ground was used by the locals as a car parking space. A car park was never built as the mythology would have you believe.

Myth Two
The original Cavern was on the opposite side of the road from the site of the Cavern Club today.

The Facts
The Cavern today occupies 75% of its original site. The address of the Cavern in 1957 when it opened was 10 Mathew Street. The address today is 10 Mathew Street.

The Reason for the Myth 2
The fruit warehouses above The Cavern were demolished in 1973 and The Cavern Club was closed down. The Council were planning to use the Cavern basements for improvements to the Merseyside Underground Railway system (which never did materialise). The Cavern Club was filled in and remained intact until 1982. Meanwhile, the owner of The Cavern, Mr. Roy Adams opened a new club opposite the original site calling it The Cavern. He erected a new 30 foot Cavern sign over his new doorway and an accompanying plaque which stated
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2004, 04:42:29 PM »

wow thanks for the information, although I admit that i never heard that they closed the original down.
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2004, 12:06:38 AM »

Why would they have torn down or filled it in in the fist place? Shouldn't it have been preserved as a landmark????
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2004, 11:59:49 AM »

[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1096820323,s=2 date=1096848398]Shouldn't it have been preserved as a landmark???? [/quote]

Yes, it should have been, but Liverpool council didn't realise the potential of The Beatles as a tourist attaraction at that time. Crazy!
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2004, 12:29:25 PM »

GREAT post!
NOW I know!  :)
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2004, 12:33:01 PM »

Paul snubs the Council during his 'cavern' performance around late 1999.
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2004, 03:11:37 PM »

[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1096820323,s=2 date=1096848398]Why would they have torn down or filled it in in the fist place? Shouldn't it have been preserved as a landmark???? [/quote]
As far as I recall all the info in the original post is correct and very welcome.  I am an architect, trained in Liverpool in the 1980's and recall very well the construction of Cavern Walks.  Dave Backhouse did a great job but it was by then a more enlightened era and back in 1973 there was, sadly, little regards for 'heritage' on the part of the officials who sanctioned the ventilation shaft trial excavations.

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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2004, 03:25:17 PM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1096820323,s=5 date=1096893181]Paul snubs the Council during his 'cavern' performance around late 1999.[/quote]

oh, interesting...
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2005, 06:51:11 PM »

I've been there about 9 years ago. There's a Beatles shop built on top of the original cavern. It's actually a cool store. It took my dad and I 15 minutes to find it from Albert Dock.  ;D

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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 12:43:27 PM »

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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2006, 12:45:27 PM »

Yes! That's what I was looking for last week!
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2006, 01:50:34 PM »

Ahhh. Now I can really fill my mates in when I say I have been there. Cheers Al! ;)
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2006, 07:46:08 PM »

No worries lads! ;D
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 11:21:28 AM »

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what were you looking for a bump???

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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2006, 12:10:25 PM »

There cannot be enough bumps.
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2006, 12:37:29 PM »

I'm looking for a bump - anyone got a decent one?
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2006, 06:56:05 PM »

LOL! ;D
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Re: The CAVERN: The Truth
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2006, 11:57:37 PM »

It's only after your "heritage" disapperars that everyone goes looking for it. All these elected people wanted to look progressive to their constituants no doubt.
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