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Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« on: January 01, 2019, 01:40:28 AM »

 “A landscape of the mind, not of the world” (David Laing), “one of pop music’s finest achievements…a magnum opus, perhaps the landmark Beatles record” (Chris Ingham), “technologically evolved folk music” (Ian MacDonald), “a record that never dates, because it lives outside time” (John Robertson). 

“We were in Almeria,” John himself explained in 1980, “and it took me six weeks to write the song.  I was writing it all the time I was making the film. "
Steve Turner’s book “A Hard Day’s Write” describes details about this location:  “Strawberry Field was a large Victorian building with extensive wooded grounds in Beconsfield Road, a five-minute walk from John’s home in Menlove Avenue.  Since 1936, it had been a children’s home with an annual fete, which Aunt Mimi regularly took him to.  The Gothic grandeur of the building and the mystery of the woods fascinated John.  He recognised it as a place where he could be alone and let his imagination fun free.  He soon discovered that there was a more direct route from his garden into the grounds and it became one of his places of escape.”

I think nearly all self respecting Beatle nuts knows about the self psychoanalysis of the song and about how it was recorded so I wont bang on about how George Martin patched the 2 versions together.

I love this extract from his book “Here, There And Everywhere,” engineer Geoff Emerick  “It had been five months since I'd last seen the group, but it might as well have been five years. For one thing, they all looked so different. Garbed in colorful clothes and sporing trendy mustaches – George Harrison even had a beard – they were utterly hip, the epitome of swinging London circa 1966...John was the one who had changed the most: having shed the excess weight he'd put on during the 'Revolver' sessions, he was trim, almost gaunt, and he was wearing granny glasses instead of the thick horn-rimmed National Health spectacles I was used to seeing. He also had very short, distinctly non-Beatlish hair.”

“It was our first night back in the studio, and we were huddled around the mixing console, discussing how we wanted to approach the new album...John Lennon was even more agitated than usual. 'Look,' he said to George Martin, 'it's really quite simple. We're fed up with making soft music for soft people, and we're fed up with playing for them, too. But it's given us a fresh start, don't you see?' From the expression on his face, it was clear that George Martin didn't see. 'We can't hear ourselves onstage anymore for all the screaming,' Paul interjected earnestly, 'so what's the point? We did try performing some songs off the last album, but there are so many complicated overdubs we can't do them justice. Now we can record anything we want, and it won't matter. And what we want is to raise the bar a notch, to make our best album ever.'...Lennon persisted, talking rapid-fire – a sure sign that he was starting to get annoyed. 'What we're saying is, if we don't have to tour, then we can record music that we won't ever have to play live, and that means we can create something that's never been heard before: a new kind of record with new kinds of sounds.'”

“Finally, George Martin called an end to the informal conference. 'Right, then, let's get to work. What have you got for me?' Paul started to say something, but before he could answer, John shouted out, 'I've got a good one, for a starter!' John could talk over most anyone if he wanted to, and he was never shy about jumping the queue; in fact, the first session for almost every Beatles album was devoted to recording one of his songs. A half smile played across Paul's face as he shrugged his shoulders, backing down gracefully.

“When he finished, there was a moment of stunned silence, broken by Paul, who in a quiet, respectful tone said simply, 'That is absolutely brilliant.' Most of the time when Lennon played one of his songs through for the first time on acoustic guitar, we'd all think, 'Wow, that's great,' but this song was clearly something special. 'I've brought a demo tape of the song with me, too,' John said, offering to play it, but everyone agreed there was no need – they wanted to get straight into recording. The energy in the room was staggering: it was almost as if the band's creative energies had been bottled up for too long.”

And so began the recording of one of Johns greatest songs, a monumental work that I reall wish was on the Pepper album, it wouldve fit so well and made the album even better !

John Lennon - Lead and Harmony Vocals, Rhythm Guitar (1965 Epiphone ES-230TD Casino), Mellotron? (Mark II)
Paul McCartney - Mellotron (Mark II), Lead Guitar (1964 Fender Esquire), Piano (Hamburg Steinway Baby Grand), Bass (1964 Rickenbacker 4001 S), timpani
George Harrison - Guitar (1961 Sonic Blue Fender Stratocaster), swaramandala, maracas, bongos
Ringo Starr - Drums (1964 Ludwig Super Classic Black Oyster Pearl)
George Martin - Mellotron? (Mark II)
Tony Fisher - Trumpet
Greg Bowen - Trumpet
Derek Watkins - Trumpet
Stanley Roderick - Trumpet
John Hall - Cello
Derek Simpson - Cello
Norman Jones - Cello
Mal Evans - Tambourine

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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2019, 03:23:54 AM »

So fantastic a song I'm afraid I often overlook it.  Long before Anthology I found a bootleg cd of outtakes of various songs and on it was John playing an acoustic version of it, I put it on cassette mixes over the officially released version for years.

Love the promotional video too.  Thanks for posting up the story.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 03:35:51 AM »

Although it’s hard to have an absolute favourite Beatle song, this is the one I usually think of first if ever asked. Even as a simple acoustic demo the song is lovely. But the arrangement and feat of combining two quite different takes lifts it into one of the great recordings of pop music. Everything comes together so well; the intro mellotron flutes, which always give me a funereal feeling, the excellent string arrangement, the outro with Ringo’s prominent drumming. Perfect.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2019, 03:41:00 AM »

So fantastic a song I'm afraid I often overlook it.  Long before Anthology I found a bootleg cd of outtakes of various songs and on it was John playing an acoustic version of it, I put it on cassette mixes over the officially released version for years.

Love the promotional video too.  Thanks for posting up the story.

I think the Love soundtrack does a great job of combining the demos and other takes with the released version into a new piece.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2019, 04:33:53 PM »

Thanks for posting all that information and the video, nimrod.

I am blown away by it.  What makes the Beatles so fascinating to watch let alone listen to?  I feel like I'm being transported to another dimension while listening to Strawberry Fields.

Also:  for people who debate "who's better, John or Paul?"  How can you possibly compare them when you listen to songs like these?  When I hear this I'm not thinking, oh yeah, Paul's definitely better than John.  This is John's song and it is awesome.  When I'm listening to Paul's stuff, I'm not thinking, oh yeah, John's definitely better than Paul.  It doesn't make any sense.  These guys are awesome both as the Beatles and as individuals in their own right.

To think - when I was younger I didn't care that much for this song.  As I got older, that's when I started really hearing a lot of their stuff - about a decade after they broke apart.  Just like Humpty Dumpty, I wish we could put the Beatles pieces back together again.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2019, 05:33:19 PM »



Interesting that this large Gothic style building was actually referred to as "Strawberry Field" but the house and landscaped grounds were already referred to as "Strawberry Fields" on a map from 1891.

Later on in his life Lennon would choose to live in another Gothic style building next to a large landscaped park ... in New York.

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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 09:43:04 PM »

 “A landscape of the mind, not of the world” (David Laing)

I really like that description, he's referring to it as if its poetry, which I think it is.

Other songwriters wrote poetically, I think Jim Morrison did. But where John was so clever was writing deep poetry and adapting it to a commercial song that had a great melody, Jims were mainly on album tracks that were not so memorable.

"Let Me take you Down Cos Im Going Too.............Strawberry Field"

What a great opening line.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 06:01:46 AM »

I   b u r i e d   P  a  u  l....
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 07:31:13 PM »

I   b u r i e d   P  a  u  l....

I've always heard it as Cranberry Paul
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 12:42:48 AM »

One of those Beatle tunes thats considered great or legendary by most and I dont personally care for.  It bores me after a short while.  When it comes on the radio or I hear it out somewhere, its one of those that cause me to sigh.  Just not for me.

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 01:45:48 AM »

One of those Beatle tunes thats considered great or legendary by most and I dont personally care for.  It bores me after a short while.  When it comes on the radio or I hear it out somewhere, its one of those that cause me to sigh.  Just not for me.


Same here, Todd.  For me, it goes back a long way.  Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane hit FM radio at the same time in early 1967.  I much preferred Penny Lane...


https://youtu.be/S-rB0pHI9fU

...and still do.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 11:28:39 AM »

I prefer Penny Lane too.

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 11:44:03 AM »

I hadn't thought of them as either or, or which one I liked better.  Now thinking about it I like both equally.  Because my early reference was both songs back to back off the blue album I position them together in my mind, forever.
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 08:13:05 PM »

Penny lane is great too. One of my favourite Beatle and Paul songs. I love the musical and lyrical contrast with Strawberry Fields while dealing with the same nostalgic theme.

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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 11:14:02 PM »

I watched a video a few years ago wherein an expert analyzed Penny.  He was greatly impressed by it.  He used a lot of technical jargon so I'm unable to quote any of his comments.

I don't think he talked about Strawberry - I can't remember. 

As I've said before, I didn't care for Strawberry when it first debuted but I came to like it as I got older.

I will say that I'm more likely to choose Strawberry to listen to than Penny.  I really don't know why because I think Penny is a great sounding song.  Maybe I just don't want to feel so upbeat - I don't know.  Penny's kind of feel good nostalgia whereas Strawberry's kind of a downer type feeling.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 12:26:52 AM »

Strawberry Fields is probably the bigger achievement, but I still prefer Penny Lane.  Probably the cheerfulness and length.  Again, I just think SF is too long and I lose interest.

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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2019, 04:47:49 AM »

Of the 2, I always go for SFF.

Penny Lane is a (very good) chirpy little pop song to me, which I think Paul repeated with Maxwells Silver Hammer whereas SFF is a Lennon masterpiece, one of those songs I feel only John couldve written.

The song had a massive influence on the world of Popular music, probably it and Tomorrow Never Knows were the pre cursors of Phsych Rock

I remember the week it came out, I was 14 or 15 and just went Wow !! Id never heard anything like it, it created quite a stir. Id certainly never heard a Mellotron before (heard plenty after though)

But those slurpy Cello's and the ethereal imagery of the song was (and is) very special. Also as mentioned before I think the song stands as poetry.

I loved this memory from Geoff Emerick;

"From the very first note, it was obvious that this new Lennon song was a masterpiece. He had created a gentle, almost mystical tribute to some mysterious place, a place he called 'Strawberry Fields.' I had no idea what the lyric was about, but the words were compelling, like abstract poetry, and there was something magical in the spooky, detached timbre of John's voice.”

“When he finished, there was a moment of stunned silence, broken by Paul, who in a quiet, respectful tone said simply, 'That is absolutely brilliant.' Most of the time when Lennon played one of his songs through for the first time on acoustic guitar, we'd all think, 'Wow, that's great,' but this song was clearly something special. 'I've brought a demo tape of the song with me, too,' John said, offering to play it, but everyone agreed there was no need"
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Re: Song Of The Week - Strawberry Fields Forever
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2019, 09:27:13 AM »

Of the 2, I always go for SFF.

Penny Lane is a (very good) chirpy little pop song to me, which I think Paul repeated with Maxwells Silver Hammer whereas SFF is a Lennon masterpiece, one of those songs I feel only John couldve written.


I'm with you on this one, Nim. I vastly prefer the ethereal SFF to the "chirpy" (good characterization) Penny Lane. I've never cared for Penny Lane; it's too cheery. It strikes a superficial note with me. In general, I prefer John's and George's songs to Paul's.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2019, 11:43:40 AM »

In general, I prefer John's and George's songs to Paul's.

I feel this way on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, but Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays I prefer Paul's and who doesn't prefer George's on the weekends?
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2019, 10:16:59 PM »

I’ve always felt Penny Lane goes well beyond just a catchy song. The real feeling of nostalgia, not just cheeriness comes through in the music.  Howard Goodall  explained in one of his shows some of the clever musical moves Paul employed to give  a depth of feeling to the song beyond just sounding like singing a happy song of childhood. Paul employs something like seven key changes seamlessly, including shifting down in the chorus while Paul’s voice moves up. A masterpiece of subtle tone setting.

And I love the lucid lyrics, even if metaphoric, which contrast beautifully with John’s dreamy, poetic Strawberry Fields.

Like Here Comes the Sun it cant help but make me feel a mix of emotions listening to it. Cheery and uplifting but something more underneath.

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