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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2005, 11:26:41 PM »

they are both pretty darn famous. both are known for intense song writing skills... i think john is better
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2005, 05:42:07 AM »

 My opinion is that it's a little easier -in a way- to listen to Paul's solo stuff than John's. With John, it could be very dark, very raw, stripped-down or bare. He had strong opinions on matters that not everyone agreed with. He was angry, could be nasty in a few songs, and always confessional. He, of course, had some super fun and more "lightweight" stuff, but you have to dig in amongst the other stuff to find it. I consider stuff like "Tight A$" and the entire Rock and Roll album to be a really fun side to John. I think you have to somehow know a little about John's history to really understand where he is coming from in his songs to really get them. Not that that is bad. I personally didn't even know too much about him and adored his songs immediately, but that's just me.

 Paul's music is pop. He has a great sense of melody, lyrics that may mean something or nothing at all- but who cares because the music is so catchy? I personally think Paul's stuff is easy on the ears and enjoyable, but after awhile I get tired of it. In his solo career, I really, truly tried to like any one of his albums all the way through but it's just not my thing.I don't care for his lyrics, I think the music is mice but nothing more, and his singing is great but doesn't help much when I don't care for the song.

 George didn't have the most consistent solo career (can be said for all four), but he did have All Things Must Pass and that in itself, aside from a few other albums I like by him, is saying a lot. That album is beautiful. I put it up there with Plastic Ono Band , Imagine, and Walls and Bridges for me.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2005, 10:22:06 PM »

i think it was unfair that i did this thread in the john lennon forum. my bad
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2005, 12:22:35 AM »

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My favorite word on the John vs. Paul debate came from George Martin. He once said that they were like the oil and vinegar in a vinagrette dressing; on their own, they're just two incomplete ingredients; it's the combination of the two that makes it work. You can't say one is more important to the overall product than another.

And of course Vinegar = John, and Paul is the oily one! ;D
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2005, 01:42:37 AM »

john would be oil cause he's more dense and deep( i think thats how vinagrettes works)
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2005, 05:03:18 AM »

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john would be oil cause he's more dense and deep( i think thats how vinagrettes works)

You're gonna hate me for this, but oil is LESS dense than vinegar. (Think, oil floats on water.) Sorry! ;)

I called John the vinegar 'cos he has a bit of bite in his work. Paul comes across very insincere sometimes - oily.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2005, 11:12:51 PM »

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You're gonna hate me for this, but oil is LESS dense than vinegar. (Think, oil floats on water.) Sorry! ;)

I called John the vinegar 'cos he has a bit of bite in his work. Paul comes across very insincere sometimes - oily.

im no science whix so you're probably right. in my logic, i always thought oil was pretty dense. stupid science!!!!
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2005, 07:20:03 PM »

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im no science whix so you're probably right. in my logic, i always thought oil was pretty dense. stupid science!!!!

But didn't you ever notice oil floats on water?
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2005, 10:49:12 PM »

Ahh..the 40 year old debate continues... ;)
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2005, 11:40:08 PM »

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But didn't you ever notice oil floats on water?

i never tried it. never noticed.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2005, 05:38:53 AM »

LOL

 and it begins.......
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2005, 01:52:34 AM »

Paul is oil because he's smooth and goes down easy. John leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2005, 03:21:43 AM »

Paul should be oil because he has no taste and heats everything up (out of proportion). :)
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2005, 06:52:14 AM »

Abstain.

I really feel they were both incredible in their own way.  John was much more personal in his approach but Paul had just as strong skills in other areas.  They never quite equaled what they did together imo but came close on several occassions.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2005, 06:55:40 AM »

i'm partial to the lennon songs myself, and as far as who wrote 'better' songs as a solo career? that ones obvious. paul was great at writing catchy songs that people would like to hear and get stuck in their head. but john matured so much, and some of his words are great works of poetry. i gotta vote for john, but hey paul u rock too
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2005, 07:54:05 AM »

Beatle wise its a tie for me. Sure johns songs are more personal, but that doesn't mean they're better. And Paul can be annoyingly trite at times. But I couldn't put one above the other.
Solo-they both suck (in comparison to Beatles stuff). Silly Love Songs, Beautiful Boy - they make Barry Manilow sound like Death Metal.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2005, 05:12:45 PM »

I agree with Charlie on this one, "Without each other they were diminished" Because Seperate Paul got too Mushy and John got to Political in alot of their songs, they were each others perfect Balance.  I also agree with the Comment about George, he thought more about his lyrics, I like Georges stuff alot.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2005, 10:00:54 PM »

who cares.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2005, 10:01:10 PM »

john was the better songwriter period.
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Re: Better Songwriter?
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2005, 10:19:32 PM »

You can't just make a flat statement like that.
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