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[nimrod]

It was on telly here recently so I decided to spend my Friday night watching it.
I have to say, as someone who remembers the 69 original one I was very let down by this.
Theyre just not a band anymore, backing singers doing most of the 'real ' singing'.....like Honky Tonk Women, Mick was kind of 'talking ' the chorus, not singing at all... while the black gospel style singers were doing the high notes and filling out the sound, Ronnie was just posing around mainly doing what Keef told him and playing chords with the odd 3 second lead guitar fill, he even had a f** in his gob at one stage just to remind us he cant get through a set without a f**, Keef himself trying to look cool playing chords again a little riff now and then, huge headband hiding receding hairline, Mick strutting around with his spidery legs waving his arms about, the highlight was when the black lady came down the walkway and sang a solo (she could actually sing)
Oh for the days of 69 when Mick Taylor was there ripping it up with his devastating lead runs on his Les Paul.......pure tone. No posturising and posing, just talent. Even Bill Wyman showed class and attitude in those days, now its just some obscure bass player who's not in the band so no light on him, just a darkened session guy.
The Stones are now a caricature of themselves, like theyre own over the top tribute band. I even thought the huge video screens behind them were to stop us noticing how boring the old guys are nowadays.

Beast R & R band in the world my arse.

[Moogmodule]

It was on telly here recently so I decided to spend my Friday night watching it.
I have to say, as someone who remembers the 69 original one I was very let down by this.
Theyre just not a band anymore, backing singers doing most of the 'real ' singing'.....like Honky Tonk Women, Mick was kind of 'talking ' the chorus, not singing at all... while the black gospel style singers were doing the high notes and filling out the sound, Ronnie was just posing around mainly doing what Keef told him and playing chords with the odd 3 second lead guitar fill, he even had a f** in his gob at one stage just to remind us he cant get through a set without a f**, Keef himself trying to look cool playing chords again a little riff now and then, huge headband hiding receding hairline, Mick strutting around with his spidery legs waving his arms about, the highlight was when the black lady came down the walkway and sang a solo (she could actually sing)
Oh for the days of 69 when Mick Taylor was there ripping it up with his devastating lead runs on his Les Paul.......pure tone. No posturising and posing, just talent. Even Bill Wyman showed class and attitude in those days, now its just some obscure bass player who's not in the band so no light on him, just a darkened session guy.
The Stones are now a caricature of themselves, like theyre own over the top tribute band. I even thought the huge video screens behind them were to stop us noticing how boring the old guys are nowadays.

Beast R & R band in the world my arse.

Sounds a similar impression to my rewatching of their Four DVDs concert. As I reviewed here a few weeks ago.

[Hello Goodbye]

Oh for the days of 69 when Mick Taylor was there ripping it up with his devastating lead runs on his Les Paul.......pure tone. No posturising and posing, just talent.

Gimme Shelter

Gimmie Shelter 1972 Live

1972

The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (Hyde Park 2013)

2013

[Moogmodule]

Yep. Some nice guitar playing in that 72 clip.

I still think the Stones put on a fun show. But that's more reflecting their past glories. They're not doing too much musically of interest anymore. And in terms of recording anything of value that's thirty years past.

I said in another thread I'd probably prefer to hear a lot of their material done by a tribute band now. Too much of their stuff has been mixed into a mid paced blues rock stew without the defining musical characteristics of the songs as they used to play them.

[oldbrownshoe]

The Stones have been caricatures of themselves for at least 40 years now!

I recently had a purge of their CDs, including bootlegs, and, after the 60s, only 'Sticky Fingers' (which, apart from 'Sway', I've never liked) and the vastly over-rated 'Exile On Main Street' are clinging on for dear life on my shelf.

I know that (in this age of tongue-logo T-shirts on every surly kid, and huge box sets of dire concerts from 1981 - 1981!!!! - being sold for hundreds of pounds on the Stones web-site) my opinion is wildly out of fashion, but, frankly, no Brian Jones + no 60s = no Rolling Stones.

[Hello Goodbye]

Ronnie was just posing around mainly doing what Keef told him and playing chords with the odd 3 second lead guitar fill, he even had a f** in his gob at one stage just to remind us he cant get through a set without a f**...

Yeah.  Well, here Keef and Billy both got f**s in their gobs...

The Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock 'n' Roll - LA Forum Live 1975 OFFICIAL

1975


Ronnie's might have fallen on the floor.  I think Mick would have been more intelligible if he had one in his gob too.   

[KelMar]

Thanks to this discussion I now have a better understanding of Everlasting Gobstoppers.

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

And in terms of recording anything of value that's thirty years past.

I'd say forty years past.

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

The Stones have been caricatures of themselves for at least 40 years now!

I recently had a purge of their CDs, including bootlegs, and, after the 60s, only 'Sticky Fingers' (which, apart from 'Sway', I've never liked) and the vastly over-rated 'Exile On Main Street' are clinging on for dear life on my shelf.

I know that (in this age of tongue-logo T-shirts on every surly kid, and huge box sets of dire concerts from 1981 - 1981!!!! - being sold for hundreds of pounds on the Stones web-site) my opinion is wildly out of fashion, but, frankly, no Brian Jones + no 60s = no Rolling Stones.

I agree with the whole idea, though I may appreciate Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street more than you do; both albums may be over-rated, but great anyway.

[nimrod]

 Too much of their stuff has been mixed into a mid paced blues rock stew without the defining musical characteristics of the songs as they used to play them.

In other words they've turned into U2

[nimrod]

Thanks to this discussion I now have a better understanding of Everlasting Gobstoppers.

Sorry to our American cousins

f** = Cigarette
Gob = Mouth
Telly = TV

[Hello Goodbye]

Yep. Some nice guitar playing in that 72 clip.

Sure was!

They're not doing too much musically of interest anymore. And in terms of recording anything of value that's thirty years past.

I'd say forty years past.

Well, between thirty and forty I reckon...

The Rolling Stones - Miss You - OFFICIAL PROMO

1978

The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up - Official Promo

1981

[Hello Goodbye]

^

Whenever I click on the Start button, I think of that song...

Microsoft Windows 95 Launch Video - Start me Up

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

Well, between thirty and forty I reckon...


The Rolling Stones - Miss You - OFFICIAL PROMO
1978


The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up - Official Promo
1981

They recorded some classic songs after Exile On Main Street, of course, but I think that they weren't able to release a great album anymore.

[Moogmodule]

Well, between thirty and forty I reckon...

I tend to think of Tatoo You as the divide between recording group Stones and Live Show Stones. . Not that its a great album. It's arbitrary I know and probably coloured by my own bias. It's the last Stones album I bought and I bought it because it was the Stones. Not because I'd heard the songs and liked them.  For me and my crowd at the time you'd still buy a stones album in the early 80s on reputation. Not after though. Being harsher I'd say that Some Girls had enough going for it to rate ok. That makes 35 to 36 years. Nearly bisecting the Thirty to forty year period. 

[Moogmodule]

In other words they've turned into U2

Well played sir. A palpable hit.

[nimrod]

I agree with the whole idea, though I may appreciate Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street more than you do; both albums may be over-rated, but great anyway.

Theyre both good albums, but I don't get the homage paid to Exile, its ok but not a masterpiece to me, too derivative.......Fingers is the better of the two imo

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

Theyre both good albums, but I don't get the homage paid to Exile, its ok but not a masterpiece to me, too derivative.......Fingers is the better of the two imo

I love both albums, but I agree that Sticky Fingers is better, and a Top 3 along with Let It Bleed and Beggars Banquet. I even tend to like Aftermath and Between The Buttons more than Exile On Main Street, but the latter is still an album I really enjoy listening to.

[Hello Goodbye]

I still think the Stones put on a fun show. But that's more reflecting their past glories.

I agree.  There's nothing wrong with that really...

The Rolling Stones - It's All Over Now, T.A.M.I Show, 1964 (#4)

1964

The Rolling Stones - It's All Over Now - The O2 Arena - London - 25th November 2012

2012

[oldbrownshoe]

If nothing else, it appears that we all like 'bits' of the Stones even if they may not be all the same bits!

Increasingly I find myself listening to the first three LPs and it's a scandal that the first two aren't on CD.
Imagine not being able to get 'Please Please Me' and 'With The Beatles'.

As for 'Sticky Fingers', I just find songs like 'Dead Flowers' and 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking' so unremittingly bleak. For the same reason, I don't really listen to the 'VU & Nico' LP.

'Exile' would have made a great single LP.
Keep Side two exactly as it is, and get the best five or six other songs for Side one.