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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2006, 02:13:17 PM »
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Well, you're talking to someone who thinks it should have been a single album anyway ;)

Well, I've always said that this album contains some bad, mediocre, good and great songs  :-/ ... no much quality balance on it ... some tracks are among the worst they ever produced but it's still one of their best albums ... and they recorded in a way that could have worked for the early 70s ... I mean, they could have still produced albums like this very easily  :)
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2006, 03:57:40 PM »
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Child Of Nature
Not Guilty
Soar Milk Sea
Circles
Mean Mr Mustard
Polithene Pam
Across The Universe
What's The New Mary Jane
for example ... and maybe others too ...

... and I forgot Look At Me and Junk  ::) ... and with all those songs we've got about 30 minutes more: a triple album for sure (now I'm not sure if they should have done that: a triple album, I mean ... they had better stuff than some of the released on the double album, for sure, so why not?)
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2007, 07:08:23 AM »
It's a classic and fine just the way it is.  The Mona Lisa would probably look better with lipstick on her as well, but no-one wants to change her.

Sure, a few tracks are "filler" and obviously it was because of pure bloody mindedness by the composer that these tracks remained.  I agree the album meanders around and has no set tone or direction, but that's the beauty of it.  For years before and since, albums were structured with like songs, telling similar stories, taking the listener on the same journey.  (Well, since about 1965 or so anyways...)

Once again, The Beatles were trailblazing.  Heavy Metal, Psuedo Punk, Country & Western, Music Hall, Avante Guarde, Pop, Rock and Psychedelia - all these genres are there.  What a trip man.  And I wouldn't want to change a thing.

Of course one doesn't have to listen to it in one go (although I prefer to), so burn your favourite tracks from the album onto a blank CD or save 'em to your i-POD.  Me, I'll just keep finding time to listen to it in it's entirety.

Cheers  ;)
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2007, 05:29:08 AM »
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Here we go again (only if you want).
ShesCominDownFastYesSheIs talked about a triple disc and BlueMeanie asked what to be included? Right?

Now, the guys recorded what they thought it was the best stuff (tho John loved Revolution 9 and Paul had to look away) ... but if they would have wanted a triple disc they had enough songs (that's the thing and here the discussion could easily end) ...

... not good enough to include on the album? or they hadn't space enough for everything?

... why not Mary Jane if the album would have been a triple one if Revolution 9 is on the double? ... if people think a single album would have been better a triple album would have been worse, nah?

About mediocre songs: we've got some (about a quarter of it) in the released album so I can't see the point ... and they recorded about a hundred times Sexy Sadie too and it remains good or bad or whatever ...

I meant to sound sarcastic (which I guess is hard without talking lol) when I said it should be a triple disc. I was just trying to empathize that I am totally against the idea of it being just a single disc. it's perfect how it is.

but in the grand tradition of removing Revolution 9 from the White album, I've often thought that You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) could be a nice interlude before Good Night. It would be bizarre (which is what I guess John went for with Number 9) but it's much more listenable.

Let's hear it for Denis O'Bell!
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2007, 11:17:53 AM »
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but in the grand tradition of removing Revolution 9 from the White album, I've often thought that You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) could be a nice interlude before Good Night. [...]

Another one I'd for-got-10! ;D
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2007, 02:47:40 AM »
I loved the white album the lenght it was! There isn't a song I could take of the album without ruining it! the fact it was a double album just made it that extra bit special to the Beatles album history! :D and gave each beatle equal number of songs on the album really!
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2007, 07:13:20 AM »
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I loved the white album the lenght it was! There isn't a song I could take of the album without ruining it! the fact it was a double album just made it that extra bit special to the Beatles album history! :D and gave each beatle equal number of songs on the album really!

Well, George only had 4, to Lennon's 13!
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2007, 08:11:33 PM »
Well in comparison to other albums thats still pretty good!
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2007, 09:12:53 PM »
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Well in comparison to other albums thats still pretty good!

He had 3 on Revolver ;)
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2007, 06:30:17 AM »
...and he had two of the four "new" tracks on the Yellow Submarine soundtrack.  50% of the new Beatles material.  Not bad eh?  
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2007, 12:09:37 AM »
Certainly not! The White Album's very purpose, it's charm, comes from that lengthy, perhaps "unnecessary" material. I mean, for every album there's going to be roughly twice as many tracks as those that end up on there, and this is just The Beatles including those takes. I know many people who dislike "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?", "Wild Honey Pie", "Rocky Racoon", and the other genre-expierimental tracks, and I can never understand why. My only complaint would be, maybe they could've excluded "Revolution 9". (although that's another example of the quirky, expierimental tracks on there) and included for it's length 4 or so shorter tracks.

My favorite Beatles album, one of the best ever. I wouldn't change The White Album for the world.
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2007, 12:21:27 AM »
There are a lot of songs on the White Album that some people hate but other people love. Honey Pie (GREAT song) and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, for example. There's something for everyone on the white album... unless you happen to be into, like, Mongolian folk music or gangsta rap.
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2007, 12:22:59 AM »
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There are a lot of songs on the White Album that some people hate but other people love. Honey Pie (GREAT song) and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, for example. There's something for everyone on the white album... unless you happen to be into, like, Mongolian folk music or gangsta rap.

I like both of those genres for one and secondly...

I've always been of the opinion that every genre birthed after The White Album's release can be traced directly back there. I'm including in this Rocky Racoon as an influence on what eventually became standard fair in gangsta rap (no joke, think about it for a second).
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2007, 12:26:46 AM »
Well Rocky Raccoon is more of a talking blues in the style of A Boy Named Sue or Subterranean Homesick Blues, but I do agree that TWA opened a lot of doors. Helter Skelter was basically the beginning of metal.
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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2007, 07:35:27 PM »
Here is a rather basic but nevetheless interesting snippet of Paul discussing the artwork of the 'White Album'
(Ignore the horrible narration and tedious image slideshow)  ;) (so pretty much everything!)

- I think this interview was directly used in "Many Years From Now" or maybe "The Anthology" - I forget now.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNCNE61SfgI" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNCNE61SfgI</a>




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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2007, 02:07:18 PM »
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There are a lot of songs on the White Album that some people hate but other people love. Honey Pie (GREAT song) and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, for example. There's something for everyone on the white album... unless you happen to be into, like, Mongolian folk music or gangsta rap.

Damn! I knew it was missing something!!

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da should have been a single.

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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2007, 02:16:23 PM »
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. There's something for everyone on the white album... unless you happen to be into, like, Mongolian folk music .

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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2007, 02:17:53 PM »
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Yak in the USSR?

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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2007, 02:36:14 PM »
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Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da should have been a single.


It was over here. With While My Guitar Gently Weeps as the b-side. I'm pretty sure it was a single in other countries as well.

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Re: Was The White Album Too Long?
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2007, 06:11:12 PM »
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It was over here. With While My Guitar Gently Weeps as the b-side. I'm pretty sure it was a single in other countries as well.


Well I never knew that. Was it a big hit? Or is that a silly question?

It's always been a bit of a mystery to me why they gave away such an obviously massive hit to Marmalade.
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