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'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« on: November 16, 2008, 02:29:08 PM »
Hi folks,

Some of you may possible recall me from running the old 'Beatles Rumour Mill' forum (which started about 10 years ago now!).

You may be familiar with the works of Daniel Johnston. He is a musician and artist hailing from Texas way. In the early 80's, driven by an obsession with the Beatles, he started recording what many regard as landmark lo-fi albums on a small cassette recorder. Eventually after handing copies of these tapes to friends and people he met in the street, he gained a reputation for being a gifted songwriter. Unfortunately, the same depression and mental illness that gave him the confidence to declare his work fully fledged records also hampered him from achieving commercial success. By the early 1990's Johnston had spent many years in and out of mental hospitals and his career was effectively over before it started.



However, in the last few years Dan has made great strides forwards. Last year he came and played a gig at the Union Chapel in the Angel Islington, London and blow me down if I was not there to catch with a film crew and a great wodge of audio equipment. Next month my tiny little label is making the DVD of that film its first release. The foreword is written by the one and only Doug Sulpy, top Beatles author. I've put out a couple of trailers and I would really like to see what the Beatle fans over here thought of them.

This is the first proper trailer, featuring the song "Grievances":

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This is the 'teaser' trailer:

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There is more info (including ordering) at http://www.angelanddaniel.com

Thanks for reading,

Rob Wheeler
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'The Angel and Daniel Johnston - Live at the Union Chapel'
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 03:27:34 PM »
Hope your sticking around Rob and not doing the obligatory spam n go.
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 04:13:21 PM »
My reputation precedes me. Any former 'Beatles Rumour Mill' members here?
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 04:29:46 PM »
Never heard of it, but you're very welcome. Forgive us, but we do get a lot of Spam u Like types. Hope you stick around and join in the discussion.

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I would really like to see what the Beatle fans over here thought of them.

I'm curious as to where 'over here' is. We're over everywhere! ;)
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 04:45:23 PM »
Nope...2 posts now...Definatly not a spammer...Welcome rob. :)
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 05:39:31 PM »
I have been a lurker on various Beatles boards for a few years. But since I shut down the Rumour Mill I have rarely, if ever posted on any. I pretty much did all my Beatles based debating there. I think maybe the Rumour Mill's biggest claim to fame might be that it was liked to on the Bootlegzone himepage for about 5 years after it closed :) If I was going to name drop I might mention that my Nan and Aunt are acquainted with
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Of course I have a personal interest in posting this message, but I genuinely think some of you guys will enjoy the trailers and the work of this very interesting artist.

Rob,
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 05:51:17 PM »
Cheers Rob. I'll give it all a proper view tomorrow when I have more time. Please get stuck in to the forums, it's always good to have a new knowledgeable member on board.
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 06:17:14 PM »
Ohhh, young man, I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know... :)
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 06:19:11 PM »
nice tune...i loved it...it is a pity people might only listen because the ailments...did he write the tune????
the music has a nice flow to it....are the earlier recordings available????i hope dan keeps on striding.....and welcome to the boards wheelie.... ;)
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 06:23:48 PM »
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Ohhh, young man, I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know... :)
don't come off the hook there rob....just roll with the flow...the current can change swiftly.... ;)
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 06:27:09 PM »
Daniel has wrote some brilliant songs. I mean really brilliant songs. He would have walked into the Beatles, the Beach Boys, in fact pretty much any band of the Sixties, Seventies or Eighties purely as a songwriter. I think the night we caught him he was doing his material about as good as he can do it in the most suited venue in front of an audience that loved him. The thing that gets me with him is how much meaning he can squeeze into words.

But yes, they are his compositions. Every song on the DVD is written by him, except "Some Things Last a Long Time" which he cowrote with Jad Fair of Half Japanese.

You can find out more about Daniel's music and art in general at http://www.rejectedunknown.com
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 06:27:10 PM »
being on a forum means retreading old topics as the base partition depletes and repletes....some new fans everyday...rehashing old maybe new to them...share the wealth and sniff the flowers...
ps can we call you old man???kidding...
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 06:30:33 PM »
many talented song writers are just that rob it seems there is more to music than writing,playing and producing.....i think those trying to cover all the bases stretch a bit much at times and make inferior tunes....i love lightly driven tunes...jose felicino to me is a masterful tunesmith...do you like kristofferson as a lyricist?
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 06:31:35 PM »
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Ohhh, young man, I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know... :)

Well, these 50 year old bones haven't been called 'young man' for years. Thank you sir!
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Re: 'The Angel and Daniel Johnston...' Trailers
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 06:32:30 PM »
I am 28 years old. The page I originally started was called "The Barmy Beatles Bootleg Barn" and it was a very basic design from Publisher 97. There was a site called the "Beatles Bootleg Central" which had lots of 11khz real audio files of bootlegged tracks. I tried to do an mp3 version of that, mainly because I wanted to get hold of the tracks. I did not realise that there were bootleg cds, so I thought it would be the only way for me to get the music. I asked people to send me tracks and I would host them on free 10 meg angelfire and geocities accounts all over the web. Eventually we got busted, but the vestiges of the site remained. A forum that no-one went on being the main one. I abandoned it for a few months, and when I came back, there were people chatting, and the Beatles Rumour Mill was born.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 06:34:54 PM »
great site rob...i'll moondog it... :)
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Well, these 50 year old bones haven't been called 'young man' for years. Thank you sir!

maybe we could call you old man then???? ;D :P
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 06:46:20 PM »
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many talented song writers are just that rob it seems there is more to music than writing,playing and producing.....i think those trying to cover all the bases stretch a bit much at times and make inferior tunes....i love lightly driven tunes...jose felicino to me is a masterful tunesmith...do you like kristofferson as a lyricist?


I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Kristofferson. What attracted me to Daniel's work was that we had many similarities in our life and the belief that we were creating some kind of masterpieces at one point or another. We were both influenced strong by Plastic Ono Band's recording ethos. I saw a documentary about Dan, and I felt I had to work with this guy, and a few months later I got it arranged :)

A couple of examples of Daniel at his best (with fan made videos):

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I find a lot of his work to be almost like a continuation of John Lennon's Dakota demos. We have talked about this.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 06:57:51 PM »
good stuff...good luck in your efforts....blessed is the man the helps from the heart...careful with that lennon reference tho...peace and love as ringo says
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 07:00:27 PM »
sorry kris is kristofferson he wrote this tune for johnny....
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