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"Icons of the Century"
« on: October 15, 2005, 10:53:26 AM »

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Beatles were singled out on Friday as the most influential entertainers of the past 100 years, beating out the likes of Elvis Presley, Charlie Chaplin and Mickey Mouse, according to a survey conducted by show business newspaper Variety.

Behind the Fab Four's first-place finish, were in alphabetical order: jazz pioneer Louis Armstrong, television comedienne Lucille Ball, movie legends Humphrey Bogart, Marlon Brando, Charlie Chaplin, James Dean and Marilyn Monroe, cartoon hero Mickey Mouse and singers Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra.

Variety said the Beatles were named "Icons of the Century" because they were the entertainment personalities who made the biggest impact on the industry and the world in the past 100 years.

The newspaper published a list of 100 entertainers from all branches of show business, including actors, directors, screenwriters, musicians, television presenters, animals, comedians and cartoon characters. Among other names on the list were Johnny Carson, Johnny Cash and Lassie.

The winners were chosen by Variety editors based on polling of entertainment industry professionals and Variety staff and by online voting by the public on variety.com.

Among the criteria for selection were a performer's commercial, creative, political and social impact and even whether their image was presented -- like James Dean's -- on a t-shirt.

The list was to be published in Variety's Sunday issue to celebrate the paper's 100th anniversary. "It seemed only natural to celebrate 100 of the people who gave us something to talk about," said Steven Gaydos, the paper's executive editor.

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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2005, 10:57:39 AM »

Can't argue with that. Cheers for posting.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2005, 02:42:30 PM »

AWESOME! Though I must say, a part of me is disappointed that Marilyn didn't win.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2005, 11:20:04 PM »

Her career was a bit short in comparison. ;) lol Although sultry, her vocals on Happy Birthday were not that great either. lol...Just kiddin with ya.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 02:56:10 PM »

great to see the boys on top
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 11:41:34 PM »

Lassie has asked for a recount.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2005, 11:39:06 AM »

Great to see Elvis at 10!!!!!!!!! Ha ha!! ;D
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 07:31:47 PM »

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Lassie has asked for a recount.

I'm just glad they beat the damn dog!  (Sorry, girl.)

I'm also glad they beat Dylan, who's gotten so much hype lately.  Not that he isn't important, but enough's enough.  

And the Beatles did it without producing a new album in 35 years!  

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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2005, 07:51:37 PM »

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And the Beatles did it without producing a new album in 35 years!
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2005, 03:49:39 AM »

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Great to see Elvis at 10!!!!!!!!! Ha ha!! ;D


Agreed, I dont see what the fuss is about with Elvis.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2005, 08:19:13 AM »

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Agreed, I dont see what the fuss is about with Elvis.

People saying Elvis is just another singer is like people saying Pepper is just another album. Look at music before and after and what Elvis achieved. As Lennon said, before him there was nothing. Elvis brought rock'n'roll into the mainstream and gave it its image that still endures today. He wasn't the product of some manager or studio boss, he was the original hunky dorry man.
You need to see him in context to appreciate him (as with Beatlemania/Pepper).
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 03:00:16 PM »

I dont think so, I dont think you need to see The Beatles in context to appreciate them. I dont like any of his music. Plus his later stuff is like Country.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2005, 03:11:58 PM »

I'm only talking about his pre-army days. The "Beatles in context" was referring to the earlier discussions about Pepper having no impact unless seen in context.
Again, I don't think you can judge Elvis unless you're aware of what music was like before and after.

I'm not a fan of his music either, but to dismiss him so easily does the history of rock'n'roll no justice.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2005, 03:13:51 PM »

Yep, there are periods and periods. Elvis was great and then only good till mid-60's and from then his stuff was a shame.
Luck that the guys didn't survive 1970, ain't it? (don't misundestand, I'm trying to be ironic).  8)
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2005, 03:25:28 PM »

^When I read what Col Parker did to his career I could cry. If there is an award for Rocks Mr Evil, he must be a main contender.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2005, 10:38:46 AM »

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Agreed, I dont see what the fuss is about with Elvis.


Please check out http://www.elvispresleynews.com/Beatles.html
I know some of the facts of the meeting are in dispute (ie the jam session that only John remembers) but it gives a good indication of the impact Elvis had on that generation.
I don't know how you can appreciate The Beatles place in rock history if don't understand Elvis's.* (I'm not saying you should like his music - I don't - but give him his dues)

*sorry - that sounds snooty and I don't mean it to be.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2005, 10:45:42 AM »

The link doesn't work.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2005, 10:52:35 AM »

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The link doesn't work.

Sorry. Does now.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2005, 03:30:40 PM »

Elvis was a puppet- a revolutionary puppet who defined rock and roll, but a puppet nonetheless.
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Re: "Icons of the Century"
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2005, 03:31:54 PM »

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Elvis was a puppet- a revolutionary puppet who defined rock and roll, but a puppet nonetheless.

Whoa. Who was pulling the strings then? (and I'm only talking pre-army here).
Remember, up to Brians death The Beatles were told what to wear, how to behave, what to say, where to play. (and they did it all, without, apparently, a murmur of discontent.)
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