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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #100 on: January 19, 2007, 08:00:11 PM »

Great post, Loco Mo. I got the Love album and really liked it. Yes, some of the arrangements were weird, but it also made them fun. Since the Martins worked very closely with the Cirque Du Soleil people, I think your speculation is a good one that this CD would make better sense in the context of the show. After all, Love was developed as a soundtrack.

For me, the fun of love is that, as Kevin says, "It all sounds very fresh and immediate." Wow, so clear! And I really like some of the alternate picks of the well-known songs. I tend to put it on when I'm in the mood for Beatles, but not of a specific period. It covers all of them, so it's nice to just have playing.

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I feel like George Martin really liked Lennon's work.  Is it my perception that I seem to hear a preponderance of John in the project?
There's no question George Martin is an ardent fan of John Lennon's. One of the most moving parts of the Anthology project was when Sir George brought up an early take of John's "A Day in the Life" and, listening and commenting on the unique quality of John's voice, gets a tear in his eye. Sad and lovely.

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While My Guitar Gently Weeps is simply a great George Harrison tune.  Can it really be called a Beatles song considering that John and Paul weren't receptive to it at the time?
I would consider this a Beatles tune, as much as any of them were in the White Album period and beyond. I don't think John and Paul were terribly receptive to George's tunes at any point. When you hear them all spin off in their different directions after the split, I can see why. Doubtless, all of them must have felt a little cramped in their style. They had their own interests, but they needed their songs to also have a "Beatly" quality. It must have been tough.

However, George does say that Paul was a help after they'd done 10 of his songs and was finally ready to tackle someone else's (I'm paraphrasing the quote). George credits Paul with coming up with that fantastic keyboard intro to WMGGW, and George had it reproduced exactly on his Japan tour because he liked it so well. It's a pity the split got so acrimonious, because much as these fellows wanted to pursue their own work, there's something helpful in having an informed critic at your elbow to steer you in a fruitful direction. Only another Beatle could countermand a Beatle; that's why I think all their solo careers were a little uneven. The talent and genius was still there, but IMHO it could have benefitted from a little brotherly criticism. :)
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #101 on: January 20, 2007, 02:45:12 AM »

I found while my guitar to be my favorite from the album! George Martin adding in the orchestra (i can't spell), was brilliant! I loved the way it worked so well with the song!
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2007, 08:31:44 PM »

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If they ever intended on releasing any more Anthology style CD's, they'd have done it by now. I don't think there's much more they can do without repeating themselves.
As for Carnival Of Light, I'm sure I remember reading that it was slated for the Anthology series, but was unanimously vetoed! The only other thing of interest I can think of is the fabled 27 minute 'Yer Blues'. I've yet to read about or meet anybody who's actually heard this!

I'd like to see a good live compilation. There must be an awful lot that they can do with the tapes now, that they couldn't do years ago. And a complete Rooftop concert.

Neil Aspinal publicly stated earlier this year that the remasters were done. It's just a question of when to release them. They'll let Love on it's own for a few months, so my prediction is for around April for the first 2 or 3 cd's. Culminating at Xmas with the Let It Be DVD. You know how Apple likes an anniversary: 20 years since the cd's were first issued.

You're right of course, there are probably not too many previously unreleased #1 top of the chart Beatle songs left in the cans...

But you know, I would still love to hear a lot of the old stuff remastered. For example, all those early Beatles tunes where the harmonies are front and center in the same "space" ... maybe because the track was mono to begin with, or maybe because that's how things were thought to be "proper" in those days. I would do almost anything to hear a remastered version where the three voices are spread out more across the sound stage ... imagine hearing all three voices completely distinctly in "That Boy", or the middle eight of "I'll Get You", or any one of a million other ones.

And from a non-vocal point of view, I'd love to hear some of the instruments spread out a bit more. Though I haven't done a comparison, the guitars in "Revolution" on the "Love" album seem more distinct and clear than I have ever heard them before ... my guess (maybe I'm way wrong, but ...) is that they split up the two guitar tracks and panned John far left and George far right. I think it would be really cool if they would do that with, for example, John and George's guitar in "Till There Was You", or "And Your Bird Can Sing", among many others ...

We might be out of luck with some of this though ... it seems that George Martin and G. Emerick had to "bounce" tracks down a lot because of the limitations of 2 and 4 track recording in the early- to mid-sixties. As I understand it, this would mean that some tracks are not able to be separated ... they've been permanently joined together to make room for other tracks.

Still ... this JPGR fool would pay some money for whatever they would sell me, that's for sure!

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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #103 on: February 01, 2007, 08:47:56 PM »

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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2007, 09:09:26 PM »

Great pic, raxo!

You know, your pic reminds me of one of the things that amazes me so much about them ... how driven they were to get to, and stay, at the top.

I mean, we KNOW that being posed here, prodded there, dressed up in ridiculous costumes, ENDLESSLY, had to have gotten extremely OLD, like almost instantly. But they all instinctively knew that in order to get to the "toppermost of the poppermost" there were certain things that had to be done, and they were going to do them to the best of their ability ... like pose for silly pics like these with smiles on that seem to suggest there is NOTHING else they'd rather be doing.

A LOT of inner strength in these four young men ...  
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #105 on: February 01, 2007, 09:19:31 PM »

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Great pic, raxo!

[...] But they all instinctively knew that in order to get to the "toppermost of the poppermost" there were certain things that had to be done, and they were going to do them to the best of their ability ... like pose for silly pics like these with smiles on that seem to suggest there is NOTHING else they'd rather be doing.
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Pleased you like the pic, alexis! :)
They are pics of them doing almost EVERYTHING 4 guys can do ... there are tons of tons of pics ... being together only a few years, we're very lucky!!! (ask Hello Goodbye! ;D)
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #106 on: February 01, 2007, 09:24:36 PM »

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Pleased you like the pic, alexis! :)
They are pics of them doing almost EVERYTHING 4 guys can do ... there are tons of tons of pics ... being together only a few years, we're very lucky!!! (ask Hello Goodbye! ;D)

That's the key word ... it wouldn't do to sink their reputation at the height of Beatlemania, would it!

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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #107 on: February 02, 2007, 11:37:40 AM »

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That's the key word ... it wouldn't do to sink their reputation at the height of Beatlemania, would it!


They used to do the most childish poses that you can imagine and then they could tell that it all was for the press ... but I'm sure they enjoyed them a lot!!! ;D The pillow battle was arranged (official story) but it's the kind of thing I could believe they could do almost everyday at their rooms ... being all day alone, what else? during the daytime, of course!!! :P
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2007, 02:37:33 PM »

I must admit I haven't listened to the album since Xmas.
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2007, 12:53:12 AM »

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I must admit I haven't listened to the album since Xmas.

I'm with you Bobber. I bought it, listened to it 5 times and it hasent been off the shelf since.

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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2007, 01:40:03 PM »

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I must admit I haven't listened to the album since Xmas.

Me too. Except for Tomorrow Never Knows/Within You, Without You.
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #111 on: February 19, 2007, 05:46:51 AM »

I like the whole thing but if i hadn't bought the DVD version i wouldn't have enjoyed it as much. I like to hear the surround mix as more of a tease for some (hopefully) FULL special edition remasters of their catalogue.. some really cool stuff going on with LOVE but i can't wait to get my hands on a real remaster and i hope they take a cue from this project and give us some cool DTS mixes too for home i'd die for that
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #112 on: February 19, 2007, 06:32:15 PM »

There is a nice article in "Sound-on-Sound" interviewing Sir George and Giles about the making of the album. SG sez he's hanging up his cleats for good now, his son sez "watch out he's said that before!".

Interesting comments made there about the some people's feelings that the early period was underrepresented in the remixes. The Martins said that because of so much bouncing down of tracks in those 2-track recording days that it's often simply not possible to get (for example) a vocal, drum, or guitar track in isolation without one of the other instruments on there as well.

Even so, I'll take whatever we can get on these ... come on Sir George and Giles, "One-two-three-four, can we have a little more?"
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #113 on: February 19, 2007, 06:46:44 PM »

Please allow me to rabbit on about how amazing the 16 minute The End 'remix' is on The Remixers Group website!  ;D
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2007, 01:25:48 PM »

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The Martins said that because of so much bouncing down of tracks in those 2-track recording days that it's often simply not possible to get (for example) a vocal, drum, or guitar track in isolation without one of the other instruments on there as well.

They should call C.S.I.
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #115 on: February 20, 2007, 01:29:58 PM »

LOVE is probably better with mostly later songs on it anyway.
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #116 on: February 20, 2007, 01:45:16 PM »

It would be very difficult to come up with a convincing surround mix from the early stuff.
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2007, 01:48:06 AM »

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They should call C.S.I.

 ;D I Love those shows!!!!!!!! 8)
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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2007, 04:13:17 AM »

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I like the whole thing but if i hadn't bought the DVD version i wouldn't have enjoyed it as much. I like to hear the surround mix as more of a tease for some (hopefully) FULL special edition remasters of their catalogue.. some really cool stuff going on with LOVE but i can't wait to get my hands on a real remaster and i hope they take a cue from this project and give us some cool DTS mixes too for home i'd die for that

Hey Bungalow Bill.......I feel the same way!

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Re: What About LOVE?
« Reply #119 on: March 17, 2007, 04:45:15 PM »

Yeah, it's alright. Don't really listen to it though, a bit like Pepper in as much as it's whole is better than it's individual parts. I got that feeling after I listened to it first time out.
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