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Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« on: February 05, 2005, 02:21:38 PM »

I was reading this article about Paul not being a cutting edge artist anymore since the the 60's with the Beatles & he's supposedly has come full circle playing the Super Bowl halftime show with a G-rated live performance.  I think this so called journalist has way too much time on his or her hands writing this worthless article about McCartney not being cutting edge anymore which generations of fans have known for quite a while.  
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2005, 02:30:19 PM »

We have all known that he is not cutting edge...Not many people are after nearly 50 yrs in the business...but your right Wayne...The reporter is making a story out of nothing and probably getting paid a nice salary aswell. lol
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2005, 02:47:34 PM »

^Miles Davis had a good pop at it though. lol...Anyone else meet the criteria anyone?
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2005, 04:19:06 PM »

What exactely is 'cutting edge' considered today? Is it the sound of bands like Maroon 5, Chevelle, Blink 182, etc,,,? I dont really follow enough of todays music to see a certain direction that its taking. This is a tough question because I dont think anybodys doing anything right now that hasent already been done. To me, I like the band 'Jet' because they actually sound like a raw rock band from the early 70's or late 60's, but thats not setting the stage or being experimental. I always thought that it was funny that bands eventually go back to the basics and attempt to copy the earlier styles that worked in the first place. Examples - REO Speedwagon is making a new album that they promise will sound like their earlier stuff. Styx put out 'Cyclorama' and it was well recieved (it is good) because the album rocks and is harder. Aerosmith put out 'Honking on Bobo' (or something stupid like that) and the Aerosmith fans liked it because they went back to the blues. You get the idea i'm sure.

I just dont know exactely what cutting edge is right now. Is it a band that dabbles in different genres and goes different directions than the norm, or is it a band that makes popular music for todays crowd? Answer this for me and then i'll attempt to answer the question.

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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2005, 01:27:18 AM »

But The Beatles are still cutting edge and they always will be.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2005, 02:56:37 AM »

Nothing that I know of is cutting edge nowadays...Just poor regurgitation..lol
I really do want someone to change that. I've said it before, only so many notes in a scale.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2005, 03:03:39 AM »

Except for a few people, like the artists I mentioned, in Wayne's U.S. tour post,  not much in the music scene is fresh nowadays.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2005, 04:29:01 AM »

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But The Beatles are still cutting edge and they always will be.

If cutting edge means anything, a non-performing, non-recording band CANNOT be cutting adge now.

Once, The Beatles were cutting edge. They even ceased to be cutting edge from 1969.

Ya gotta try and keep hold of reality. We all love the Beatles here, but some posters are too much into near-idolatory!
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2005, 03:48:36 PM »

A band that can sell albums like 1 did is still cutting edge. Nobody's come along to better them,therefore they're still cutting edge. They still sell millions of albums a year. If they're not cutting edge,nobody is.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2005, 07:11:20 PM »

Gotta disagree there. Any sort of "greatest hits" package ain't cutting edge. Greatest hits packages always look back, so I don't see the cutting EDGE!
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2005, 07:16:30 PM »

Nothing seems like it could be "cutting edge" anymore. Then again, if it's cutting edge, nobody should expect it. *shrug*

Paul isn't cutting edge. But he was, so...it's not like he actually has to be now. He's done it, and well. I mean...yeah. He was a Beatle, doesn't that ... say enough?
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2005, 05:53:58 PM »

Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
Gotta disagree there.

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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2005, 07:09:02 PM »

Silly thing to say on a forum Lenny! Lifeblood of any forum: disagreement.

But haven't you any comment on my next two sentences?
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2005, 09:12:25 PM »

I think this all about the interpretation of 'Cutting Edge' If they are still cutting edge because no-one has surpassed their achievements and we look at things from a much bigger timescale...Say the last 1000 yrs then they would be still cutting edge.

If they are to be measured on contemporary music i.e. 5yrs? for eg. then no, they are not actively pushing music further or affecting fashion and views as they once did. That could be considered 'not cutting edge.'

I agree with Ydoll on 'Greatest Hits ' comment as I would'nt want to get the impression that I was against everything he said.

Anyhows...who/what is 'Cutting Edge' nowadays?...Is it the kind of music that is so called 'underground'? No-one has really given an example. Maybe that's why in some eyes The Beatles still are. No act have surpassed their acheivements.

Just adding fuel to the fire here. Plus I'm really interested as to what 'Cutting Edge' means to everyone.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2005, 09:27:05 PM »

Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle

I agree with Ydoll on 'Greatest Hits ' comment as I would'nt want to get the impression that I was against everything he said.


Thanks for that. 'Preciate the objectivity.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2005, 09:54:41 PM »

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Gotta disagree there. Any sort of "greatest hits" package ain't cutting edge. Greatest hits packages always look back, so I don't see the cutting EDGE!


I give.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2005, 10:06:22 PM »

Or not, as the case may be.:)
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2005, 03:47:41 AM »

I don't know what is cutting edge nowadays...trance?  mash-ups?  rave?  hip-hop (which in itslef is nearly a quarter century old already).

In the 60's the Beatles defined cutting edge.  That was THEIR time, hell, their DECADE.

But now?  Actually a few songs here and there could still be considered relevant today so therefore still edgy...but for the most part their catalog will forever be consigned to the 1960's.
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2005, 03:52:42 AM »

Good f-ing point Charlie. What was the last band that was really influencial or cutting edge anyway. Nirvana?
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Re: Paul isn't cutting edge anymore.  
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2005, 04:25:12 AM »

What does it matter if something is "cutting edge" if the edge is cutting the wrong way?
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