Guilt , Confliction with Beatles songs

[nimrod]

Something else I wanna add:  Strawberry Fields.  They really worked and reworked that song.  The version we hear is with John's voice slowed down.  Did John actually tell George Martin to do that?  I heard the faster version and it doesn't sound as good to me.  So there you go - input from non-Beatles contributes significantly to the quality of Beatles songs.

Do we think less of the Beatles because of it?

there is a YouTube video about the making of strawberry Fields George Martin explains how he joined the two halves of the song together one was in a different key but luckily it was faster so when he slowed the tape down of that half it matched the other half in terms of the key... I think John had said that he liked the beginning of 1 version and the end of the other creating a situation were George Martin had to be invented with tape speeds.

[Hello Goodbye]

there is a YouTube video about the making of strawberry Fields George Martin explains how he joined the two halves of the song together one was in a different key but luckily it was faster so when he slowed the tape down of that half it matched the other half in terms of the key... I think John had said that he liked the beginning of 1 version and the end of the other creating a situation were George Martin had to be invented with tape speeds.

https://youtu.be/imEsh4PMEIw


Paul talked about that too...


https://youtu.be/wJqiiDzsPYw

[nimrod]

Knew you'd find it Baz 

[Bulldog]

As a huge Beatles believer, fan and promoter I often defend them and use the four guys playing instruments/band argument vs artists that are singers only and or more produced music behind them.

The conflict I have is that some of my favorite parts of Beatle songs aren't them playing instruments.  For example, this morning on my commute, I enjoyed and was reminded of how much I enjoy the trumpet solo in Penny Lane.  The notes, the tempo, the crescendo all are magnificent to me.  Another example is the haunting strings in Eleanor Rigby.  I remember listening to them 30 or more years ago and flipping the speakers to whichever side has the strings isolated during the chorus to hear them without the chorus singing.  Wow.

Anyone else defend them with the four guys playing as a band argument?

Anyone else feel guilt about liking the heavily "produced" components?

Nothing to feel guilty about.

The trumpet on Penny Lane is because of Paul. He rightly decided it would enhance the song & would have told the trumpet player exactly what he wanted. Ditto with Elenor Rigby & the violins.

John, Paul & George were versatile instrumentalists.

[blmeanie]

all good conversations, thanks for the replies.

I over reached in my original post, exaggerated a bit.  I don't feel any guilt, probably too strong a word. 

You've all more or less answered what I was feeling but I haven't seen anyone respond with comments similar to what the boys have been quoted as saying here or there, especially around the Abbey Road sessions - how much they enjoyed being a band again and recording , mostly with just the four of them.

[Hello Goodbye]

Knew you'd find it Baz 

You can count on me, mate. 

Lots of "clues" in the video...


https://youtu.be/HtUH9z_Oey8