Ringo Starr heal/hurt game

ma_tt2 · Feb 03, 2006, 12:17 AM

Heal OG
Hurt DBMB

Don't Pass Me By 14
Octopus's Garden 6

Bobber · Feb 03, 2006, 06:50 AM

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 15
Octopus's Garden 5

Kevin · Feb 03, 2006, 06:53 AM

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 16
Octopus's Garden 4

She's going down!

Bobber · Feb 03, 2006, 07:00 AM

Thanx for supporting Kevin.

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 17
Octopus's Garden 3

Kevin · Feb 03, 2006, 08:21 AM

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 18
Octopus's Garden 2

bye bye

Bobber · Feb 03, 2006, 08:26 AM

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 19
Octopus's Garden 1

Kevin · Feb 03, 2006, 08:30 AM

Hurt OG
Heal DPMB

Don't Pass Me By 20
Octopus's Garden 0

aah. Such guilty pleasure. If only George Martin had felt the same way.

Bobber · Feb 03, 2006, 08:42 AM

Conclusion: Don't Pass Me By was BY FAR the best song ever written by Ringo Starr in the sixties. I never understood why Octopus's Garden was included in the Blue Album (1967-1970) anyway. Was this one of the best they ever made?

ma_tt2 · Feb 03, 2006, 11:04 AM

Quote from: BobberConclusion: Don't Pass Me By was BY FAR the best song ever written by Ringo Starr in the sixties. I never understood why Octopus's Garden was included in the Blue Album (1967-1970) anyway. Was this one of the best they ever made?

ahh I'm too late. I think Octopus's Garden fits well in the Blue Album, maybe some of you don't think it's his best but it is his most popular.

Mean_Mr_Mustard · Feb 03, 2006, 04:27 PM

I prefer Octopus's Garden, the harmonies are brilliant. But I am too late.

raxo · Feb 03, 2006, 06:34 PM

I know that there are lots of people with good taste here ... I'm not surely one of them

but I agree with them on this one: OCTOPUS'S GARDEN is the best song by Ringo in the 60 ... much better than the boring and monotonous Don't Pass Me By ... Harmonies, guitars, ... well, the whole theme!!!

Kevin · Feb 04, 2006, 04:13 AM

Quote from: raxoI know that there are lots of people with good taste here ... I'm not surely one of them but I agree with them on this one: OCTOPUS'S GARDEN is the best song by Ringo in the 60 ... much better than the boring and monotonous Don't Pass Me By ... Harmonies, guitars, ... well, the whole theme!!!

I probably ranked OG as a Beatles song more than a Ringo song. DPMB sits nicely as a White Album knock off. Its inoffensive. OG is a frankensteinian monstrosity that should have been laid in the snow the moment it was born. It embarrasses me when non-Beatle friends here it. You always have to say "well it is Ringo."
But yeh, I would say OG is technicly (and probably performance wise) a better song. It just really grates me as a Beatle song.

Bobber · Feb 04, 2006, 07:00 AM

Quote from: kevin_b
OG is a frankensteinian monstrosity that should have been laid in the snow the moment it was born. It embarrasses me when non-Beatle friends here it. You always have to say "well it is Ringo."
But yeh, I would say OG is technicly (and probably performance wise) a better song. It just really grates me as a Beatle song.

Exactly.

raxo · Feb 04, 2006, 09:33 AM

Quote from: kevin_b

I probably ranked OG as a Beatles song more than a Ringo song. DPMB sits nicely as a White Album knock off. Its inoffensive. OG is a frankensteinian monstrosity that should have been laid in the snow the moment it was born. It embarrasses me when non-Beatle friends here it. You always have to say "well it is Ringo."
But yeh, I would say OG is technicly (and probably performance wise) a better song. It just really grates me as a Beatle song.

First of all: this was (still is?) a "Ringo Starr Heal/Hurt game" so both are Ringotunes, we all agree ...

... but if Octopus's Garden embarrasses you by saying "well it is Ringo" (when non-Beatle friends -of you- hear it ... -a song embarrases me always or never, BTW-) and you probably ranked OG as a Beatles song (?) more than a Ringo song ... are you saying that Ringotunes are less embarrasing than Guytunes?

... remember that, after all, you have said that Octopus's Garden just really grates me as a Beatle song.

A frankensteinian monstrosity ? Sorry but I don't see anything of that on Octopus's Garden ... no place to that definition on that one, for me.

So I should understand that you prefer Don't Passs Me By because is nicely as a White Album knock off. Its inoffensive. ... for me that album is a collection of some garbage, some mediocrity, some good songs and some masterpieces so my point of view is that almost any song, thing or whatever could fit on that one and if Octopus's Garden would have been on that album instead of Don't Pass Me By the album would have been better.

What's special on Don't Pass Me By? The melody ??) or lyrics ??) ? I don't want to talk about the performance 'cos it's quite clear, isn't it?
Seriously I can't see anything good on that one: I insist boring and monotonous for me :-/.

But it all it's a matter of taste ... tho someone said that musical quality is an objective matter too (and it was not a critic).

raxo · Feb 04, 2006, 11:33 AM

Quote from: BobberConclusion: Don't Pass Me By was BY FAR the best song ever written by Ringo Starr in the sixties. I never understood why Octopus's Garden was included in the Blue Album (1967-1970) anyway. Was this one of the best they ever made?

The tracklist of Blue Album is not the best of course ... but I think that the people who made it were thinking about being fair to the reality of the last months of the band ... and Ringo had got one song in The Guys and another one in Abbey Road so they decided to put one of them ... then, the choice was obvious.

But if we think about if its quality is enough to be on the Blue Album ... why don't we ask ourselves about Old Brown Shue, for example?

Anyway, I don't think Octopus's Garden should be in the Blue Album (there are better songs, of course -not precisely Don't Pass Me By-) but at least it's an interesting song musically: a potencialy funny and well-arranged uptempo hit single for any other band in 1969 (even for them if they would have wanted it).