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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2011, 01:36:26 AM »

After the genius of McCartney II and Tug Of War, Macca really went downhill with this album.

Genius and McCartney 2 should never be mumbled together in any kind of breath.

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The only redeeming factor is that Michael Jackson is on it. As a huge MJ fan, I like the collaborations. Say Say Say and The Man are great songs.

The Man is awful.
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2011, 01:38:35 AM »

The Girl Is Mine is a classic song, and absolutely brilliant.


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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2011, 01:42:56 AM »

I can't see how McCartney I sounds "down on the farm." Other than the fact that Paul was living on a farm at the time, it sounds like classic Macca.

I'd compare the sounds he was making around MC1 and Ram to the last Beatles album, Let It Be. They both have a similar feel and recording technique.
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2011, 01:47:21 AM »

Genius and McCartney 2 should never be mumbled together in any kind of breath.

I think we should agree to disagree.

I view MCII in the same way I view Radiohead's Kid A. It's an experimental album from a pop/rock group, that sounds radically different, but is incredibly experimental.

Now, not every Radiohead fan will like Kid A. Some will prefer The Bends, or OK Computer. Not every Macca fan will like MCII.

I prefer Kid A, and McCartney II.

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The Man is awful.

Compared to some of what Paul has written by himself, The Man is a masterpiece. And I say that as a huge Paul solo fan.
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2011, 03:22:47 AM »

Compared to some of what Paul has written by himself, The Man is a masterpiece. And I say that as a huge Paul solo fan.

Its all opinions anyway and i'm just razzing you, but this statement offered a challenge and I guess I failed, because I cant think of even one song he's written thats as bad as this one.

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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2011, 12:12:24 AM »

Its all opinions anyway and i'm just razzing you, but this statement offered a challenge and I guess I failed, because I cant think of even one song he's written thats as bad as this one.

Freedom? Smile Away? Ballroom Dancing? We All Stand Together?

And I guess saying The Man is a great song was pretty stupid. It's an okay song, not great.

It's not even the worst MJ song that Michael himself has written. But it's also not the best. Michael has written a lot of amazing songs, even up to just before he died, that were classic.
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 02:04:24 AM »

Freedom? Smile Away? Ballroom Dancing? We All Stand Together?

'Ballroom Dancing' is an awesome song, 'Smile Away' and 'We All Stand Together' are decent songs, while 'Freedom' absolutly sucks and its still miles and mile better than 'The Man'.

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And I guess saying The Man is a great song was pretty stupid. It's an okay song, not great.

Yeah, we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I could never consider it even OK.

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 02:58:09 AM »

You're just not a Michael Jackson fan. Simply as.
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2011, 04:00:31 AM »

You're just not a Michael Jackson fan. Simply as.

It doesnt really have anything to do with Jacko. I dig some of his stuff, but I just dont like that song. I love Stevie Wonder and hate 'Ebony And Ivory' too.

A bad song is a bad song

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2011, 07:36:44 AM »

Ebony And Ivory and even more The Girl Is Mine made me feel ashamed to be a Beatlesfan for the first time in my life.
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2011, 07:42:19 AM »

The Beatles kicked my butt and I still have one more to go. I cant imagine doing Pauls catalog.

Maybe I will.
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2011, 08:07:14 AM »

I would but Im no fan
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2011, 10:22:23 AM »

Maybe I will.

Please do it. I'd love to read everybodys opinions and tell them how wrong they are.  ha2ha

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2011, 12:04:50 PM »

Please do it. I'd love to read everybodys opinions and tell them how wrong they are.  ha2ha


...then I can step in and correct you!  ha2ha

It would be a daunting task and one that I wouldn't want to initiate, though I'd love to join in.

Bobber, you've hinted you might be willing so I'm urging you to....

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2011, 06:51:31 PM »

Please do it. I'd love to read everybodys opinions and tell them how wrong they are.  ha2ha

I haven't listened to the most of them in a long time. His nineties stuff is even unknown for a great part. But I will start with McCartney tomorrow and give my review by the end of the week. Be prepared. ;D
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2011, 10:54:23 PM »

I haven't listened to the most of them in a long time. His nineties stuff is even unknown for a great part. But I will start with McCartney tomorrow and give my review by the end of the week. Be prepared. ;D

ahhh my favourite paul album  ;D

who's gonna do Johns ?
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2011, 01:15:49 AM »

I haven't listened to the most of them in a long time. His nineties stuff is even unknown for a great part. But I will start with McCartney tomorrow and give my review by the end of the week. Be prepared. ;D

Excellent news. Cant wait.

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 01:20:09 AM »

ahhh my favourite paul album  ;D

who's gonna do Johns ?

We elect you Kev for the John reviews.  ;yes

Speaking of reviews, dont you have a song review coming up soon? Its been awhile (as I procrastinate with Pastmasters 2).

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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2011, 02:26:00 AM »

We elect you Kev for the John reviews.  ;yes

Speaking of reviews, dont you have a song review coming up soon? Its been awhile (as I procrastinate with Pastmasters 2).

yes Ive started the next song review should be up next day or two
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Re: Pipes Of Peace
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2011, 07:50:23 AM »

We elect you Kev for the John reviews.  ;yes

Speaking of reviews, dont you have a song review coming up soon? Its been awhile (as I procrastinate with Pastmasters 2).

I will do John, George and Ringo after I finished Paul. No lie. I'm too unfamiliar with their solo stuff anyway, so it's a good opportunity.
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