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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2012, 06:21:47 AM »

Or

3. One of these ways I cannot agree is increasing the cost of fuel.

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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2012, 06:28:40 AM »

Could anybody help me quick please?

Which of two sentences is grammatically right?

1. One of these ways, which I cannot agree with, is increasing the cost of fuel.
2. One of these ways, with which I cannot agree, is increasing the cost of fuel.

I think they both may be correct Dmitry but I believe the first is the one most people would use. That would be the common usage but in strict grammatical terms it may not be correct. I wish I could be more helpful!

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3. One of these ways I cannot agree is increasing the cost of fuel.

Just saw this.^ Definitely not that one.    ;)
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 06:37:57 AM »

Thank you very much, Kelley!

Other opinions and explanations are still welcomed.

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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2012, 06:40:00 AM »

Thank you very much, Kelley!

Other opinions and explanations are still welcomed.

You're welcome.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2012, 12:19:44 PM »

Could anybody help me quick please?

Which of two sentences is grammatically right?

1. One of these ways, which I cannot agree with, is increasing the cost of fuel.
2. One of these ways, with which I cannot agree, is increasing the cost of fuel.

They're both correct but I would suggest :

Increasing the cost of fuel is one way I cannot agree with.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 01:22:19 PM »

Thank you zipp!!!

I just wonder why. Both versions is not good enough?

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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 03:25:59 PM »

Could anybody help me quick please?

Which of two sentences is grammatically right?

1. One of these ways, which I cannot agree with, is increasing the cost of fuel.
2. One of these ways, with which I cannot agree, is increasing the cost of fuel.

I think No.2 is the most grammatically correct, but it sounds very formal and a little out-dated now.
In normal speech and informal writing example 1 sounds much better and more natural.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 05:36:34 PM »


peterbell1 is correct. Number 2 is technically grammatically correct, and it would be appropriate in a textbook or more formal type of publication; however, in everyday speech or, say, a magazine article or less formal publication, Number 1 would be more appropriate.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2012, 02:42:16 AM »

In Brooklyn they would say:  "Get outta here!  Whataya mean dey wanna make gas higher?  I don't go for dat!"
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2012, 06:10:56 AM »

peterbell1 is correct. Number 2 is technically grammatically correct, and it would be appropriate in a textbook or more formal type of publication; however, in everyday speech or, say, a magazine article or less formal publication, Number 1 would be more appropriate.

I knew our resident editor would settle this! I was afraid he needed to know right that minute so I took a shot. English isn't easy, even for us native speakers. Or is that "even for those of us who are native speakers"?  ;D
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2012, 07:30:39 AM »

I was writing an essay yesterday, so I decided to be sure if the sentence I wrote is right. As I can see now both variants have their right to live.

Thank you all very much! It was very interesting )

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2012, 04:25:26 AM »

Thank you all very much! It was very interesting )

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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2012, 10:43:12 AM »

Just seen this, yes Kathy is right No 2
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2012, 06:21:00 AM »

I have a sentence:

It is a full-length movie about opera. If you are a novice in opera, this movie will make you love and understand opera, and, if you are so-called expert, then, by watching the movie, you will find out many things you didn't know about before.

Could you please correct mistakes? One of the big questions is commas.

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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2012, 08:46:52 AM »

I have a sentence:

It is a full-length movie about opera. If you are a novice in opera, this movie will make you love and understand opera, and, if you are so-called expert, then, by watching the movie, you will find out many things you didn't know about before.

Could you please correct mistakes? One of the big questions is commas.

Firstly, it should be "a" so-called expert ...

I think the placement of the commas is - strictly speaking - grammatically correct. However, the second sentence is beginning to look a bit complicated, so it would be best to re-write it and maybe turn it into two separate sentences which are less complex and would involve less use of commas. Something like ...

If you are a novice in opera, this movie will make you love it and understand it. (I removed the second use of the word "opera" as it was being over-used at the start of your passage). Even if you are a so-called expert, then watching the movie will still teach you many things that you didn't know before. (For the second section, I made "watching the movie" part of the main sentence and used the word "teach" rather than "find out about", as it helps to simplify the sentence.)

So, my finished suggestion would be ...

It is a full-length movie about opera. If you are a novice in opera, this movie will make you love it and understand it. Even if you are a so-called expert, then watching the movie will still teach you many things that you didn't know before.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2012, 12:07:29 PM »

That's great!
I will use the sentence which you suggested.
Thank very much indeed!

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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2012, 06:30:59 AM »

The author of the movie tell me to write:

A full-length movie about opera. If you are a novice, this movie will make you love and understand opera; if you are an expert, you might appreciate seeing some aspects in a totally different light!  :)

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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2012, 03:17:39 PM »

The author of the movie tell me to write:

A full-length movie about opera. If you are a novice, this movie will make you love and understand opera; if you are an expert, you might appreciate seeing some aspects in a totally different light!  :)

Dmitry, that's not proper grammar.  The first sentence is not a sentence at all.  The second sentence is awkward the way it's punctuated.

This should read as follows:

This is a full-length movie about opera.  If you are a novice, the movie will make you love and understand opera.  If you are an expert, you might appreciate seeing some aspects of opera in a totally different light.
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Re: English lanuage - questions and answers
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2012, 07:33:55 PM »

I see! "A full-length movie about opera" - I wrote this  :-[ because a movie title is before it and goes like this: "The opera story by Ricky Vernio - A full-length movie about opera".
The second sentence wrote a man from New-York. He is a writer. I'll ask him again about it. Interesting!

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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2012, 09:43:27 PM »

I took journalism in high school and I was on my high school and college newspapers.  There are a number of ways to express your opening thought.  It comes down to elements of style.  The way I wrote it is more "staccato" in style.  It's direct and to the point.  That's always a good way start an article and get the reader's attention.

I would also write "this movie will help you love and understand opera."  This way you won't appear pretentious.
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