The way I read your post Mr M is like this
your a Ringo fan
your not a Clapton fan
ie
blinkered
I really dont understand how you can rate Ringo a better singer than Clapton
When and where have I ever said that?
Your not right about Ringo, he is a pub singer, he cant write songs, he's famous because he used to be in The Beatles
Here's what I actually said:
"Ringo personified the bonhomie which helps to carry a live show and whilst lacking the talent of, say, Stephen Stills, Eric Clapton or James Taylor, had more "presence" and star quality than the three of them put together. Very limited both as a singer and a songwriter, he relied on a web of support and if it wasn't for the fact he was a Beatle - his passport to immortality - wouldn't seriously figure in the debate alongside those artists already mentioned."
Don't you read posts properly?
Clapton was the star man in John Mayalls Bluesbreakers (when he was known in London as God)
Which means a lot to "serious" music fans like yourself... less so to many, many others. Call me blinkered by all means but like it or not I'd argue that being an esteemed part of JMB just doesn't carry the same WOW factor as "He was one of The Beatles!!!"
Clapton was the star man in the Yardbirds
That says it all. Arguably the most faceless/least starry group of the 60s.
Clapton was the star man in Cream
Possibly true but very debateable.
He is a renowned songwriter, one of the best guitarists in the history of rock, he is also a great singer, listen to him sing Crossroads or Tears In Heaven
Songwriter and guitarist agreed, singer I disagree. I have listened to those tracks - vocally unremarkable. He never was or will be a great singer, nor will Ringo.
Ringo is a bit of a joke, the way he gets people clapping like its a singalong in a pub, most of his concerts are done/sung by others, anyway as I said I think your talking tripe and I think deep down you know it.
From your lofty, opinionated, sneering perch you might think Ringo's a joke. I don't. He knows how to work a crowd, is aware of his serious limitations and, as I've already said, does trade heavily on his Beatle past. Why shouldn't he? OK so his tongue is firmly in his cheek when he gets 'em all giggling along to "Octopus's Garden"...it's called FUN, Kevin, harmless
FUN Ringo is an entertainer who is comfortable with his limits and doesn't try to live up to an embarrassing epithet like "God" (give me strength!!!)
Its fair enough not being a Clapton fan, I can easily dig that, but to say Ringo has more talent than Clapton is a complete joke.
Dear me, there you go again, completely misquoting me. I don't mind some of Clapton's stuff. PLEASE read the last paragraph of my original post again. Charisma and talent ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!
You have lost all credibility in my eyes as a knowledgeable music fan.
I won't lose any sleep over that since you've fallen even further in my estimation than I have in yours.
When you resort to telling people who dare to have a different opinion (actually not so different if you'd have the courtesy to read my posts properly) that they are talking through their arse, any credibility you might have had is gone.
Bobber gets it, tkitna gets it, how come you don't?
I'll stop talking through my arse when you get your head out of your own.