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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2007, 05:55:53 PM »
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[...]- the first band to use a sitar on their records [...]

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That would be The Yardbirds - Heart Full Of Soul.

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wow really?!! I always thought it was the Beatles! thanks for the correction   :)

Great reading here .... I recommand it:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1130863215/s-all/

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2007, 06:04:42 PM »
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Not sure about this, but I think they were the first pop band to have a gatefold sleeve. Beatles For Sale. [...]

The begining of more things that many use to think!!! ::) What a great album!!! 8)
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2007, 09:26:49 PM »
I ve read The Beatles were the first band to use Feedback on a song. True?
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2007, 09:44:02 PM »
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I ve read The Beatles were the first band to use Feedback on a song. True?


I'm not going to be the one who says the contrary  8) ...
We've debated about the subject many times ... here for example:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1121752534/s-15/   (reply 17)
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2007, 12:19:55 AM »
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Great reading here .... I recommand it:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1130863215/s-all/



Thanks for the link.  Seems like George gets credit for first "released" use of an actual sitar on a western pock-rock record.  The Yardbirds recorded it but didn't use it--the brought in Jeff Beck to do the "Heart Full of Soul" to sound like a sitar.  

Then they invented the electric sitar so guitarists wouldn't have to learn how to play the classical indian instrument.  Wonder what the first use of electric sitar on a hit record was?  Joe South fiddled around with it, Strawberry Alarm Clock?

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2007, 10:37:06 PM »
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Thanks for the link.  [...]

A pleasure, adamzero! :) Glad you enjoyed it! ;)
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I'm not going to be the one who says the contrary  8) ...
We've debated about the subject many times ... here for example:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1121752534/s-15/   (reply 17)


More about feedback:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-cc/m-1125678268/s-all/
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2007, 01:15:30 PM »
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I ve read The Beatles were the first band to use Feedback on a song. True?

Could be, it's often said. But if I had to guess, I'd go for someone like Link Wray.
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2007, 02:12:56 PM »
We've had this debate. Link Wray used distortion as opposed to feedback. But in retrospect I don't think the feedback thing is any big deal. Can anyone name any other feedback songs? Hardly a trend setter, it's really just a novelty, whereas Link's distortion paves the way for Hendrix and the like.
I guess we could argue that the feedback thing showed that pop/rock records could have unusal sounds/effects, but this was probably already done. It showed The Beatles and Martin had imagination I guess.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2007, 02:36:52 PM »
And it was an accident, after all.
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2007, 01:44:52 AM »
The Beatles were the first group to record a song with a faded intro-Eight Days A Week

How cool is that?!
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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2007, 12:19:13 PM »
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[...]How cool is that?!

Very cool ... like the album itself!!!  8) Welcome a-gain! :)
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2007, 03:37:10 PM »
Before the Beatles, nobody took albums really seriously. Artists would just take the A and B sides of their last two or three singles, add a few second rate songs and some cover songs and call it an album. Nobody really bothered trying to make an album that was good from start to finish. People would rather make three albums with four actual hits each than one album with twelve potential hits. The Beatles changed all that. They raised the bar and made albums more important than singles. Brian Wilson said he never even thought of making an album that was good from start to finish, until he heard Rubber Soul.
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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2007, 03:45:46 PM »
And I'm actually a little bit concerned that this whole new culture of music downloads might reverse that process. I think the concept of the music album might even dissapear. Cause people don't have to buy the whole album anymore. They can decide to get just a few certain songs from an album now. If the tangible sound carriers will ever dissapear (which I hope won't happen), I think the concept of music albums will dissapear with it.
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2007, 03:48:56 PM »
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And I'm actually a little bit concerned that this whole new culture of music downloads might reverse that process. I think the concept of the music album might even dissapear. Cause people don't have to buy the whole album anymore. They can decide to get just a few certain songs from an album now. If records and CDs ever dissapear (which I hope won't happen), I think the concept of music albums will dissapear with it.

There's always bands that have an eye for that. Found this:

Leave it to brainy rock act Radiohead to adopt an approach to downloading that's as complicated as a trigonometry problem. Want to buy the band's early single "Fake Plastic Trees"? Sorry, no can do. To get that song, you'll have to download the entire album it appears on, the 1995 release The Bends.
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2007, 03:50:41 PM »
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There's always bands that have an eye for that. Found this:

Leave it to brainy rock act Radiohead to adopt an approach to downloading that's as complicated as a trigonometry problem. Want to buy the band's early single "Fake Plastic Trees"? Sorry, no can do. To get that song, you'll have to download the entire album it appears on, the 1995 release The Bends.

Oh, that's cool. That's a good thing. I think that artists have the right to present their music in the original context.
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2007, 03:54:26 PM »
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Before the Beatles, nobody took albums really seriously......Nobody really bothered trying to make an album that was good from start to finish.

Apart from Dylan of course. Highway 61 (his 1st rock album) predates Rubber Soul by four months, and must have influenced The Beatles hugely (though I agree The Beatles, with their heavier commercial pull, would have influenced other mainstream acts and the public  more than Bob).
Though I guess being a folk crossover act probably gaver him an unfair advantage. He was "just" doing what he'd always done, but with rock. But we know John especially was spellbound by that album. It's hard not to come to the conclusion that it played a major part in Rubber Soul's format.
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2007, 05:18:09 PM »
I don't download any music. I just buy the c.d. s. ;)
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2007, 08:03:21 PM »
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I don't download any music. I just buy the c.d. s. ;)

Same goes for me. But we seem to be a dying breed.
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2007, 04:28:16 PM »
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Re: Beatles 'Firsts'
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2007, 11:35:13 AM »
Were they the first band to deliberately miss-spell their name (The Monkees, The Byrds etc)? I can think of no others before them.
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