Another thing is with all of their Numerology, Astrology, etc., and them hardly making a move without consulting all of these types, how could someone not seen peril in the numbers 12/08/80 or even 10/08 since 'Dec' is Latin for 10. Alot of people believe in that stuff and that's fine, but the whole premise is blown to crap as far as I'm concerned. Yoko said later that some people just exude bad karma or luck or whatever and John's fate was sealed, which seems to be a pretty skimpy rationale for an event that was so devastating.