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Re: Ringo- amazing drummer?
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2004, 01:46:30 AM »

Drumming was his madness...
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2004, 05:03:00 AM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=39 date=1091659866]Well, his first Joint, he supposedly smoked the whole thing, like a cigerette...
We all know about his alcohol adventures..the 80's been the morning after.

I always see Ringo as a big drug taker...
Harrison is the one who loved drugs the most..and John.. thats the feeling I get.

Mccartney was more a Dope man.[/quote]

Care to cite any references to back up your impressions?


As far as I know, John was the biggest druggie, and George was a close second.  Paul was wary of not always being in control so he used it the least, and Ringo, as I said, was much more of a lush than a stoner.

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« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2004, 12:14:46 PM »

Well, Countless books etc.

George and John were into Drugs the most.
Paul was more into the Dope Scene...(future run-ins with the police)

And we all know of Ringo's Rehab adventures.

I'd say John hit an all time low with heroin.
George found purity, although still loved the cigerettes.

Im curious to when Ringo and Paul gave up smoking?
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2004, 12:52:44 AM »

Interesting question -- best answered in the context of the studio musicianship of the band.  According to Mark Lewisohn in The Beatles Recording Sessions -- In the thousands of hours of tape that he listened to (all with Paul McCartney and George Martin's authorization), Ringo only broke down twice -- meaning his drumming on track takes rarely required re-do's.  That said, there was one song that he played through that Lennon wanted a re-do on because Ringo drummed as if the Beatles were the Dave Clark Five (acccording to Lennon on tape).  Point is -- the thousands of hours of Beatle studio tapes affirm that Ringo may have been more technically savvy than pundits give him credit for.  Now as for John and Paul (particularly John), the breakdowns in studio recordings were far more frequent.  So the rub on Ringo might really come down to songwriting and singing ability -- something he paled when compared to his three bandmates.  But in the studio, he not only held his own when it came to his assigned instrument, but did his job with little, if any flaw.
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2004, 03:45:09 PM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=42 date=1091708086]Well, Countless books etc.[/quote]

Oh, well, then!  I apologize for questioning you!






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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2004, 04:02:56 PM »

[quote by=LarryG link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=43 date=1091839964]Interesting question -- best answered in the context of the studio musicianship of the band.
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Re: Ringo- amazing drummer?
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2004, 07:59:06 PM »

Ringo's a great drummer...I've got nothing more to say.
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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2004, 08:53:30 PM »

[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=44 date=1091893509]

Oh, well, then!
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« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2004, 02:10:54 AM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=47 date=1091998410]


...who do you think you are? I was just offering my opinion.

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"Countless books" is an absurd defense.

I think I am someone who asked if you had any proof, and that was what you offered.

If it's your *opinion*, then yeah, well, that's a different animal entirely.


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« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2004, 02:30:02 PM »

i think ringo is great...i often find myself listening to beatle songs and the drums are what my mind drifts too...if that makes sense?    he's the glue
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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2004, 11:35:36 PM »

Books, Video, Films..Media in General..thats how fans read into the Bands.
That, coupled with the basic intelligence of understanding them as People.

How did you evaluate the drug-intake? dont tell me.. a Long Lost Roadie?
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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2004, 05:06:58 AM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=50 date=1092267336]Books, Video, Films..Media in General..thats how fans read into the Bands.
That, coupled with the basic intelligence of understanding them as People.

How did you evaluate the drug-intake? dont tell me.. a Long Lost Roadie?
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You don't indicate who you are talking to, but I assume it's me.

I don't get your message here...media is a one sided mirror and much of what you see/read/hear is just what they WANT for you to.

None of us REALLY know ANYone in the public eye.  Still, your point is well taken...we all DO judge and categorize people with the available information and our gut.

Which then creates our opinion.  To which you are perfectly entitled.  One needs no proof for an opinion.

As to the drug intake, I have no idea what you're asking here...roadie?
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« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2004, 04:35:59 PM »

Seeing past the biased road that is layed by the media is easy, and like Ive said, you have to take what your reading with a pinch of salt.
 We only know what is written, and again, you then have to make intelligent assumptions etc.

The Roadie comment was just a sarcastic remark which is niether funny nor clever. I apologise for such a waste of reading time.

"They want you to*"  If this is a reference to the hundreds of authors each cashing in on the success of the Beatles, then I totaly agree....only a handful of books Ive read, I have enjoyed and thought they might be leaning over to the truthful and tasteful side instead of the fictional and absurd.

We only have Mccartneys and Starrs viewpoint if were going off Beatles, and with Mccartney being the main PR for the Beatles, you never know what is the truth.
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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2004, 07:32:02 PM »

People don't even tell everything to their spouses.

NO ONE knows the whole truth about ANYone else.  Famous people especially, as they have a 'business' front.
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« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2004, 11:58:53 PM »

exactly.
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« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2004, 11:41:01 PM »

Nah,he wasn't great. Give me Neil Peart any day. Even John Bonham.
But he was (and is) a great,charming guy,and a good drummer to boot.
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« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2004, 12:13:48 AM »

[quote by=Strawberryfields67 link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=55 date=1092958861]Nah,he wasn't great. Give me Neil Peart any day.[/quote]

Blasphmey! Neil Peart,,,the technical wizard that has no soul. He couldnt groove if his life depended on it, but I will admit that he has an abundance of chops.

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Even John Bonham

Going out on a limb? Bonzo was incredible and had the complete package.

Theres more to drumming than just flash. Ringo had/has one of the deepest pockets in popular music and thats why he's respected by the two people you just mentioned.



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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2004, 06:29:37 PM »

Comparing Bonham to Ringo is just absurd.
For one thing, they have completely different styles and interpretations on what their own input on a record is, and it was from two very different periods in the historic time-line of 20th Century music.

Ringo (In the context of the Beatles) was a great little Rock N roll Drummer who lay down a solid beat, and could from time to time, create some creative and impressive drumming which can be seen in the later years of the Beatles.

Its only because of being in such a band like the Beatles, that his work and style gets grief.
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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2004, 09:39:50 PM »

[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=57 date=1093112977]Comparing Bonham to Ringo is just absurd.
For one thing, they have completely different styles and interpretations on what their own input on a record is, and it was from two very different periods in the historic time-line of 20th Century music.

Ringo (In the context of the Beatles) was a great little Rock N roll Drummer who lay down a solid beat, and could from time to time, create some creative and impressive drumming which can be seen in the later years of the Beatles.

Its only because of being in such a band like the Beatles, that his work and style gets grief.[/quote]


And, at the same time,. it's only because of being in such a nabd like the Beatles that his work may have ever been heard.

Wow. :0
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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2004, 07:41:27 PM »

nah, he would have toured in another Liverpool band, and his work would of still been heard.

Just disagreeing for the sake of it.

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