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JimmyMcCullochFan

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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2008, 04:03:53 PM »

^ You can't believe everything Paul says.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2008, 06:04:26 PM »

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I have the boots so I know exactly what they sound like!

McCartney himself said that the only thing they did to WOA was tighten up some of the harmonies because some of them were off mike, WOA is the actual live recordings.  I believe Paul McCartney so all this other stuff just isn't true.

I always wondered how the myth got started that there was some massive clean up of WOA, the man himself says otherwise!

There is no way that the only thing Paul did to WOA was tighten up the harmonies. As a musician myself, I can clearly hear the changes he made on the songs. The fact that you've heard the bootlegs should be enough for you to hear the differences between the boots and the crisp clean WOA. I know that WOA is actual recording from live shows, what I saying is that McCartney took a lot of parts and redid them and not for the better in my opinion. Let me use an example. Listen to Jet from Wings over Melbourne in 1975(the performance can be found on Youtube) and then listen to Jet from Wings over Seattle(Also on Youtube) in 1976 and than listen to Jet on Wings Over America. Now listen to Joe English's drumming on WOM and on WOS and you'll hear on the raw versions that it is pretty much the same drumming. Then listen to the drumming on WOA and you'll hear a pretty big difference on the drumming. So do you really think on one night Joe decided to change his excellent drumming he did pretty much every show he did from 1975 to 1976 for one night? And it's not only Wings over Seattle and Wings over Melbourne that have the same drumming, it's also Wings over Los Angeles, Wings Over Tornonto, Wings over San Francisco etc. Paul and Wings definitely went back to the studio to clean up what they thought needed cleaning.

JimmyMcCullochFan is right. you can't believe everything Paul says. Does anyone really believe that Back to the Egg was a back to the basic raw rock and roll album that he said it would be? Everyone who has heard the record know that its far from a raw rock and roll album. The myth about a massive clean up on WOA is a true myth.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2008, 06:19:17 PM »

Compare and contrast these versions of Medicine Jar (If you wouldn't mind also Wordno)

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^ Wings Over America version

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^ Wings Over Seattle version...it's video is missing some of the song of you get the idea.

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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2008, 08:51:57 PM »

This is my radical setlist change for Paul .

1.Lovely Rita
2.With A little Help From My Freinds
3.Hi Hi Hi
4.Helen Wheels
5.Michelle
6.I'm looking Through You
7.That Was Me
8.Silly Love Songs
9.Another Day
10.Mrs Vanderbilt
11.Everynight
12.Junk
13.House Of Wax
14.No More Lonley Nights
15.Uncle Albert /Admiral Halsey
16.Sing The Changes
17.Listen To What The Man Said
18.Can't Buy Me Love
19.And I Love Her
20.Maxwell's Silver Hammer
21.Rocky Racoon
22.Oh Darling
23.Coming Up
24.Tug Of War
25.Fool On The Hill
26.Little Lamb Dragonfly
27.Wanderlust
28.C'mon People

Encore
29.Live And Let Die
30.Come And Get It
31.Nineteen Hundred And Eighty Five
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2008, 09:47:24 PM »

Daveram, your setlist is a change, but it doesn't rock hard enough, not enough of those fantastic Wings rockers!

Guys believe whatever you want, but I'll stick with the man himself!
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2008, 10:19:26 PM »

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Daveram, your setlist is a change, but it doesn't rock hard enough, not enough of those fantastic Wings rockers!

Guys believe whatever you want, but I'll stick with the man himself!

Thank you maccafan , i was trying to protect his voice a bit , with a slightly softer set , i have some concerns in that department and although i like it when he rocks , he is going to be 67 next year .
I really do think you have to take that into account .
I was watching some film of Tina Turner on her American tour and although she looks and sounds great , her vocal at 68 is not what it was on some of her more rocking numbers .
I would like to see some good backing singers on the next tour ? think that would help Paul especially if he's going to be touring for over a year .

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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2008, 01:58:43 AM »

McCartney with backing singers, OMG NO!

Rusty, Abe, Wix, and Brian sing excellent!

McCartney can sing his rockers just fine, he just proved it yet again two weeks ago!  Besides this is a rock concert you can't go soft, McCartney's shows are already soft enough.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2008, 09:27:03 AM »

John George and Ringo were great backing singers so it's not a new concept .
And yes the band do their share , i just think a couple  more would smooth out some of the rough edges that are appearing .
I've listend to Paul's voice since the "Brit" appearance and i think his voice is not as strong through out a performance , it's still good , but for me the cracks are showing .
It's not a question of going soft it's more a question of supporting Paul and looking after his welfare .
These one off shows are not the same as a gruelling tour which could last a year maccafan ?

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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2008, 10:43:58 AM »

Yeah I agree, when I saw him perform the Liverpool concert this year on TV, I guessed which songs he would sing next and most of time I was right. It was all too familiar. Apart from surprises of course (Lennon songs).

One song I wish he would perform is Young Boy.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2008, 11:18:18 AM »

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One song I wish he would perform is Young Boy.

"Young Boy" is a truly wonderful song.  I was just telling my husband last week that I think "Young Boy" is the best track on the "Flaming Pie" album.  I would love to see it performed live. :)
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2008, 02:59:56 PM »

I like Young Boy as well, McCartney likes the rough edges, it sounds more rock and roll.

I've e-mailed McCartney's two guitarist asking them to please let McCartney know that people want to hear more of the Wings and solo material.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2008, 05:43:08 PM »

^ They won't ask him, trust me.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2008, 02:15:36 AM »

I don't know, I received an e-mail back from Brian Ray and he said that indeed there will be Wings songs, now I don't know if this means new and different Wings songs?  I'm encouraged though because I was very specific in my e-mail, I even suggested certain songs so Mr. Ray couldn't misunderstand what I was asking!

All I can say is we will see!
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2008, 02:57:04 AM »

^Well yeah there will be Wings songs but they aren't going to ASK Paul to play more Wings stuff.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2008, 04:41:30 PM »

As I said, I don't know, I am encouraged!  Who knows what they may suggest to McCartney?

They would probably love to play some totally different material.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2008, 07:42:19 PM »

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^Well yeah there will be Wings songs but they aren't going to ASK Paul to play more Wings stuff.

Sorry to sound naive, but how do you know they won't ask Paul?   :-/

Maccafan, that's cool that you were able to get in touch with Paul's guitarist.  Perhaps he won't mention anything at all, but it doesn't hurt to try.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2008, 07:58:14 PM »

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Sorry to sound naive, but how do you know they won't ask Paul?   :-/

Maccafan, that's cool that you were able to get in touch with Paul's guitarist.  Perhaps he won't mention anything at all, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Because Brian has emailed me before and told me that they don't ask Paul those types of things etc

Paul,
Hey, good luck with that! should be fun...
We in the band don't bring news or proposals to Paul.

All the best,
Brian
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2008, 08:26:47 PM »

^  Ohhh, I see.  That's kind of sad to hear.   :-/
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2008, 08:35:01 PM »

Yeah but it's understandable because I am sure they get thousands of emails from fans asking if they would tell stuff to Paul for them.
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Re: Time for Setlist change
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2008, 11:38:18 PM »

Here's the thing though, they do suggest songs to McCartney all the time, so once again who knows what they may be suggesting!

As I said, I am encouraged!
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