Quincy Jones said the Beatles were the worst musicians

Started by Loco Mo, Apr 25, 2019, 06:31 PM

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tkitna

Quote from: Loco Mo on Apr 27, 2019, 03:17 PM
This is the song Quincy criticized Ringo for:  "Love is a Many Splendored Thing."  Now, I'm not sure if Ringo actually played on this.  Does anyone know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOSRf47pUvU#

I don't think Ringo did anything but vocals on Sentimental Journey.

Moogmodule

Quote from: Loco Mo on Apr 27, 2019, 03:17 PM
This is the song Quincy criticized Ringo for:  "Love is a Many Splendored Thing."  Now, I'm not sure if Ringo actually played on this.  Does anyone know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOSRf47pUvU#

If he was referring to Ringos singing on those that would be understandable. No one would claim that Ringo was/is a great vocalist.

Moogmodule

Quote from: Bulldog on Apr 27, 2019, 05:07 AM
Heard a rumour that in the late 60's Paul wanted to do his own drumming on his own songs. Ringo was not amused.

That seems to be one of those rumours that feeds into the bollocks you here that Paul was a better drummer than Ringo. I've never heard anything of Paul that would in any way show he came close to Ringo. Paul struck me as competent but rarely more than that.

It was only on Hal Blaine's death I heard he actually did some drum overdubs on Band on the Run. He didn't remember which songs though.

Normandie

Quote from: Hello Goodbye on Apr 27, 2019, 02:38 PM

Just a rumor.


Is it? (I'm not trying to be snarky, Barry.) I read (of course, I can't remember the specific book) that during the Abbey Road sessions Paul would go back and overdub Ringo's drumming with his own on most of the songs. I recall reading that his wife said Ringo would often come home in tears.

Also, of course, one can't believe everything one reads. So I'm not sure if this is true or not.

Bulldog

Ringo in tears? Mind you Ringo does sometimes get emotional in interviews.

Not sure how The Beatles could be so popular if they were such poor musicians. They were constantly playing live from the 1950's to 1966 & constantly in the studio during virtually all of the 1960's.

Ringo's drumming, Paul's bass playing & George branching out to the sitar have all been praised.

Loco Mo

Sentimental Journey is a great 1st album by Ringo.  IMHO, it's better than McCartney and All Things Must Pass.

John said he was embarrassed by it.  What a shame!  He didn't appreciate Ringo.  Well, I can't imagine anyone who thinks of himself as a genius could.

But what do I know?  Maybe I'm just a music simpleton.  I mean I can't get into classical music or jazz so I guess I'm one of the primitives of the world.  Maybe I should try to find an aborigine tribe I could join (if they'll have me, that is.)
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Bulldog

Wasn't the 'McCartney' album recorded in a couple of days. With Paul playing all the instruments? It shows.

A lot different to 'The Beatles' Paul who used to take so much time with his songs. Agree with John when he said he thought 'McCartney' was 'rubbish'.

Paul found a bit of consistency in 1973 with 'Band on the Run', which John praised. 'Live and Let Die' also had polished production and suited the film.

tkitna

Quote from: Moogmodule on Apr 27, 2019, 08:44 PM
It was only on Hal Blaine's death I heard he actually did some drum overdubs on Band on the Run. He didn't remember which songs though.

I've never heard this.  Interesting.

tkitna

Quote from: Loco Mo on Apr 28, 2019, 11:05 AM
Sentimental Journey is a great 1st album by Ringo.  IMHO, it's better than McCartney and All Things Must Pass.

Better than 'All Things Must Pass'?  I've never heard anybody say that before and cant understand your opinion.   

Loco Mo

tkitna:

QuoteBetter than 'All Things Must Pass'?  I've never heard anybody say that before and can't understand your opinion.

Sorry about that.  i got carried away and I tend to say crazy things when I'm in one of my crazy moods.  I really like Paul's and George's 1st albums, too.  I just talk crazy (lots of times).

I really just like the big band approach on Ringo's album.  Lots of the drumming is really good on Sentimental Journey.  I think Ringo was kind of humble having drummers who were better than he was play on his record.
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Loco Mo

The bottom line is that if you see a post by Loco Mo (me), don't take it too seriously.  I guess I'm like my dad who no one ever should ever have taken seriously but always did.  My dad lived in an alcohol-infused world and his view of the real world reflected the hazy lenses through which he viewed it.  I mean look:  I wrote a post one night calling Yoko the Greatest.  Don't even take me with a grain of salt.
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Normandie

<< I read (of course, I can't remember the specific book) that during the Abbey Road sessions Paul would go back and overdub Ringo's drumming with his own on most of the songs. I recall reading that his wife said Ringo would often come home in tears.>>

I have to correct myself: It was during the White Album sessions that this allegedly happened. And yeah, I can believe Ringo being in tears; I get stressed just reading about the tension of the White Album sessions. I can't recall whether Geoff Emerick quit during or right after them, but they sound nightmarish.

I'll have to go back in and read the Quincy Jones interview that kicked this thread off.

Loco Mo

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