You just keep repeating yourself. Your basically saying that Petes biggest contribution to the band was that he accepted the drumming position when nobody else would (wonder why he even accepted since the band was so sh*tty as you say. I guess he had trouble finding work?). Just accepting the position isnt much of a contribution. What did he do that was so great? If the guy was actually writing songs, or teaching the guys music theory then I would say he was a great contributor. Just because he was an adequate drummer and helped the Beatles get girl private due to his looks, doesnt mean he was a major contributor. What did he do that was so musically brilliant? As far as I can see, he was basically a drummer in a cover band that had a few originals at the time. Thats not hard. If I played the same songs night after night after night, I would be just as adequate.
No you wouldn't, because you are one of those guys who loves to run his mouth, swearing all the time and acting like your opinion is the final word on any topic you decide to throw in your 2 cents on. You talk a lot, but you never really do anything, do you? What have you ever actually done to be such an expert on everything? Seriously. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, but what have you ever done in your life that would make you qualified to be a know it all expert on what it takes to be a part of a gigging band for two years? You wouldn't have a clue. Pete did a lot more than just "accept the position" of drummer in The Beatles. He spent more time playing live for The Beatles in his 2 years than Ringo did in his entire career, at times drew more paying fans to The Beatles shows than the other 3 put together, created a beat that became the new Liverpool sound, helped the group become the most popular group in 2 different cities in 2 different countries with record deals in 2 different countries and also helped manage the groups business affairs. That's more than just accepting a position.
Show me some examples of how f***ing good this guy is. I mean, I have albums of his and almost everything that can be heard from his Beatle days thats offered and i'm not seeing this great talent. Hell, when the guys wrote originals and let him lay the beat to the songs, we ended up with his version of 'Love Me Do' which sucked beyond belief. Prove your point already instead of just saying he joined the band and thats enough.
I've proved my point a dozen different way on many different posts. You usually skip right past the facts of my answers and just keep throwing out attack questions. I answer all of them and the the whole process repeats itself. Pete's first take at "Love Me Do" sucked beyond belief? So did Ringo's first take at "Love Me Do". He couldn't keep the timing right and had the exact same problem Pete had. George Martin thought so. So did Paul McCartney. Ringo's first attempt at "Love Me Do" sucked so bad that Martin booked studio drummer Andy White he following week to try and get it recorded right. They let Ringo play tamborine (same instrument Yoko played).
You asked for examples of Pete's best work with the Beatles?"Our best work was never recorded. We were at our best when we played the dance halls of Liverpool & Hamburg. The world never saw that. Later on we became technically efficent recording artists."
Thats awesome. The guy was decent looking, played the drums hard, and made a spectacle out of himself so he recieved the most attention. Whoopee. Surely he must have been the talent in the group. I mean, look how his career took off after he was canned.
He didn't make a spectacle out of himself as you say, but at times he did draw more fans than the other three combined!!! Drawing fans is an important part of being a gigging band. Something you know nothing about or else you wouldn't make such silly comments. But no matter how good a job a drummer does, you need hit songs. Best found one Hall of Fame songwriting team, he wasn't able to find another. He isn't alone there. No other drummer in the history of the world found another Lennon & McCartney either.
Well since you just mentioned two drummers that are better than Ringo, I suppose we can say yes to your question.
I asked you if The Beatles were to have later sacked Ringo and replaced him with Anysley Dunbar or Mitch Mitchell, would that mean Ringo sucked and didn't contribute anything to The Beatles too. You say yes???!!! That's just a stupid way at looking at things. Whatever Ringo contributed, he contributed. Just like whatever Pete contributed he contributed. Just because you sack someone, that doesn't erase the contributions the person made before they were sacked.
Let me break it down for you. Once Brian got a hold of them, they werent playing sh*tty clubs everynight so yeah, the fluidness and skills of the actual playing may have broken down, but who wants to listen to that crap compared the 'A Hard Days Night'?
They were selling out shows in 2 different countries with fans standing in line for days before the show just to have a chance to get in. It looks like a whole lot of people wanted to hear that "crap" as you call it.
They wanted to make it big and they sure as hell werent going to do so by continuing their raunchy stage act and wearing leather jackets. I think their success proves that point. Its not hard to imagine that they had a better time with no supervision. Dont we all?
The point wasn't when did they have the most fun. The point was when were The Beatles playing at their best as a live act. John Lennon says they were at their best during the time Pete Best was the drummer.
Well the fact that Ringo was still labeled as the best drummer in Liverpool even when Pete was in the Beatles may have had something to do with it and sure, I think Ringo helped the band out by being a better drummer. He was tighter and more innovative for sure. I havent heard anything from Pete Best that would change my mind.
Who says Ringo Starr was the best drummer in Liverpool? You?
Again with this age old question, if Pete was so good, why werent people and bands knocking down his door for his services? Did he pull a Brian Wilson and lay in bed all depressed for 2 or 3 years? This is the question I want answered the most.
This question was already answered once before, so pay attention tkitna. Pete did not pull a Brian Wilson and lay in bed for 2-3 years. He was asked to join Lee Curtis & The All-Stars. In January 1962, The Beatles with Pete Best had narrowly won The Mersey Beat Poll as the most popular group in Germany (narrowly defeating Ringo's group Rory Storm & The Hurricaines). In January 1963, just 4 months after Pete was replaced by Ringo, The Beatles won again in a very close vote. This time they narrowly beat out the new hottest band in Liverpool - Lee Curtis & The All-Stars featuring Pete Best who finished 2nd in the poll.